Ploughing into a bus queue
Ploughing into a bus queue
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americancrx

Original Poster:

454 posts

246 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Why is this assumed to be the worst-case scenario for losing control of your car?

Is there a particularly infamous incident that got a lot of media attention? Does the Allegro brake failure from "The Quality Connection" stick in people's minds?

Vasco

18,009 posts

134 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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americancrx said:
Why is this assumed to be the worst-case scenario for losing control of your car?

Is there a particularly infamous incident that got a lot of media attention? Does the Allegro brake failure from "The Quality Connection" stick in people's minds?
Is it?

Can you think of many other occasions when a car could kill off 20-30 people ?

Huzzah

28,960 posts

212 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Allegros we're quite good cars. I did manage a brake failure but it was old and rusty, I didn't crash it though.

ikarl

4,048 posts

228 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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6 were killed and 15 seriously injured in the 2014 bin lorry crash in Glasgow around Christmas time...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3we90ppxg5o

vikingaero

13,233 posts

198 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Because you've ploughed into innocent bystanders who have nothing to do with your loss of control/accident other than being a victim of your poor driving/negligence/accident/murderous intent.

As a car driver you are an evil, polluting, capitalist, bourgeois, decadent, child and cyclist killing scum with a number plate and driving licence that they can trace and prosecute you. biggrin

swisstoni

23,932 posts

308 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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What an odd basis for a thread. A bus queue is simply the most likely place to find a group of people near the roadside.

SAS Tom

3,754 posts

203 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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swisstoni said:
What an odd basis for a thread. A bus queue is simply the most likely place to find a group of people near the roadside.
Not really, there might be a story behind it likes lots of common sayings like “the best thing since sliced bread” etc

swisstoni

23,932 posts

308 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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SAS Tom said:
swisstoni said:
What an odd basis for a thread. A bus queue is simply the most likely place to find a group of people near the roadside.
Not really, there might be a story behind it likes lots of common sayings like “the best thing since sliced bread” etc
It’s the same as being ‘run over by a bus’.
It’s an archetype.


Byker28i

91,332 posts

246 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Most are deliberate, rather than accidental

German christmas markets last year/this year
New Orleans Bourbon Street attack, 14 killed
Stockholm - 5 killed, 14 injured

Every day a journey

3,127 posts

67 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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There was one in Brighton a couple of years ago.

P****d up woman in a Jag, thankfully late at night, lost control and destroyed the shelter. One guy suffered serious injuries.

She was jailed.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/24656959.brighton-...

Also one in Hastings (or St Leonards) where another drink driver, in a shed of a BMW killed a guy when he lost control and did the same.

otolith

68,704 posts

233 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Vasco said:
Is it?

Can you think of many other occasions when a car could kill off 20-30 people ?
Derailing a train. Selby killed 10 people and seriously injured 82 when a Land Rover found its way onto the track.

J4CKO

46,821 posts

229 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Wasnt the thread title the second track on the Smiths debut album ?

otolith

68,704 posts

233 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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J4CKO said:
Wasnt the thread title the second track on the Smiths debut album ?
It was on their demo, got cut from the album, not depressing enough.

QJumper

3,238 posts

55 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Wasn't there a case some years ago, where a bus driver hit the wrong pedal and drove into the queue? If I remember rightly he was jailed fo it.

garypotter

2,068 posts

179 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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Insurers do not like injuries as this can cost them 10 of millions where as a death is pretty cheap, i suppose the bus queue is one of the main areas where there are a group of people standing near the road side hence it is used.

more recently the number of claims where individuals lose talent leaving car meets/shows and end up going into the crowd of bystanders plenty on social media

Mark-C

7,601 posts

234 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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I mostly see it used where people complain it costs £3000 to insure a £500 car ... it's just a simple scenario to outline why the insurance is more for the people you hit than yourself in an accident.

Mr Tidy

31,350 posts

156 months

Monday 7th April 2025
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otolith said:
Vasco said:
Is it?

Can you think of many other occasions when a car could kill off 20-30 people ?
Derailing a train. Selby killed 10 people and seriously injured 82 when a Land Rover found its way onto the track.
IIRC Someone created a bigger claim when they blocked a canal in France.

So now Third Party cover is no longer unlimited. frown

Sadly wiping out a bus queue would probably be much cheaper than crippling 1 Premier League footballer, which is why insurance for those that move in the same circles as sportsmen and celebs is expensive as they may have them as passengers.

Back in 1984 I worked in the Claims Department for the insurer of the coach that Bucks Fizz were travelling in when it crashed. It was their most expensive claim ever!




gtidriver

3,714 posts

216 months

Tuesday 8th April 2025
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https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/ramsgate-...

Unfortunately this happened at a bus stop.

Alex Z

2,064 posts

105 months

Tuesday 8th April 2025
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When people mention hitting a bus queue, isn’t it normally just giving an example of a scenario where you could injure multiple people in one go?

It doesn’t really matter if it’s a bus queue or sports team out for a walk together. It’s just to illustrate a point.

Hol

9,316 posts

229 months

Tuesday 8th April 2025
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Alex Z said:
When people mention hitting a bus queue, isn’t it normally just giving an example of a scenario where you could injure multiple people in one go?

It doesn’t really matter if it’s a bus queue or sports team out for a walk together. It’s just to illustrate a point.
This.