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Franco5

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457 posts

78 months

Yesterday (17:45)
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I’m talking about on the motorway. Not a cheeky undercut past an outside lane doom brain but persistent and aggressive swerving across all lanes and accelerating into any gap for as far as you can see the offender.

Thing I’ve noticed with them is more often than not it’s a low value, older car so I’m guessing the manner of their driving reflects their thick peasant status and could be due to their general levels of frustration with their lot.

Inbox

938 posts

5 months

Yesterday (17:47)
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I thought this was the ask a Funeral Director anything thread...

ThingsBehindTheSun

2,686 posts

50 months

Yesterday (17:53)
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Where did all the 60MPH middle lane hoggers on the motorway come from? I am sure they are sitting there convinced they are the safest drivers on the road as the "maniacs" constantly pull out from the inside lane to the outside lane to over take, or just undertake them at 70MPH.

I had one late at night on a deserted A3 flash his lights at me as I sat in the inside lane maintaining 70MPH with cruise control and just undertook him.

Just fking move over, but they never get the message.

Yahonza

3,056 posts

49 months

Yesterday (18:03)
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ThingsBehindTheSun said:
Where did all the 60MPH middle lane hoggers on the motorway come from? I am sure they are sitting there convinced they are the safest drivers on the road as the "maniacs" constantly pull out from the inside lane to the outside lane to over take, or just undertake them at 70MPH.

I had one late at night on a deserted A3 flash his lights at me as I sat in the inside lane maintaining 70MPH with cruise control and just undertook him.

Just fking move over, but they never get the message.
Yes but this is about the 'get past everyone regardless of what lane they should be in' drivers, like the Chelsea footballer, rather than the amble past at the correct speed in the inside lane, without being aggressive, type of driver like your good patient self. I'm sensing some trolling though.

OPUT

1 posts

Yesterday (18:04)
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Franco5 said:
I m talking about on the motorway. Not a cheeky undercut past an outside lane doom brain but persistent and aggressive swerving across all lanes and accelerating into any gap for as far as you can see the offender.

Thing I ve noticed with them is more often than not it s a low value, older car so I m guessing the manner of their driving reflects their thick peasant status and could be due to their general levels of frustration with their lot.
"low value car"? Driver must be a thick peasant who is frustrated with his lot?

What a way to judge people. eek


Inbox

938 posts

5 months

Yesterday (18:18)
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ThingsBehindTheSun said:
Where did all the 60MPH middle lane hoggers on the motorway come from? I am sure they are sitting there convinced they are the safest drivers on the road as the "maniacs" constantly pull out from the inside lane to the outside lane to over take, or just undertake them at 70MPH.

I had one late at night on a deserted A3 flash his lights at me as I sat in the inside lane maintaining 70MPH with cruise control and just undertook him.

Just fking move over, but they never get the message.
They probably are deluding themselves but who cares as long as you can get past them safely and make progress without being inconvenienced.

For Gods sake take a chill pill, life is stressful enough without getting wound up over something that in reality is a bit pathetic.

And rather than get therapy on here maybe report them which might fix the problem one driver at a time.

BunkMoreland

2,854 posts

26 months

Yesterday (20:53)
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Franco5 said:
I m talking about on the motorway. Not a cheeky undercut past an outside lane doom brain but persistent and aggressive swerving across all lanes and accelerating into any gap for as far as you can see the offender.

Thing I ve noticed with them is more often than not it s a low value, older car so I m guessing the manner of their driving reflects their thick peasant status and could be due to their general levels of frustration with their lot.
So you're saying you are constantly being undertaken on motorways but its not your fault and everyone else is in the wrong?

If I get undertaken then I am in the wrong, and I am unlikely to ever complain about others doing it. I would say I undertake at least 3 cars every single time I use triple lane roads.

fk the idiots who cant drive!

Krikkit

27,647 posts

200 months

Yesterday (21:06)
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Franco5 said:
I m talking about on the motorway. Not a cheeky undercut past an outside lane doom brain but persistent and aggressive swerving across all lanes and accelerating into any gap for as far as you can see the offender.

Thing I ve noticed with them is more often than not it s a low value, older car so I m guessing the manner of their driving reflects their thick peasant status and could be due to their general levels of frustration with their lot.
Why should I perform 4 unnecessary lane changes because you sit their in your overpriced ste not moving over?

Super Sonic

11,034 posts

73 months

Yesterday (21:08)
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"How dare they pass me in their inferior cars, I'm doing almost the speed limit."

njw1

2,578 posts

130 months

Yesterday (21:28)
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Franco5 said:
Thing I ve noticed with them is more often than not it s a low value, older car so I m guessing the manner of their driving reflects their thick peasant status and could be due to their general levels of frustration with their lot.
My car cost me less than £3k, however, it costs a bloody fortune to run and is quicker than most things on the road, does it still qualify me for thick peasant status...? smile

Leftfootwonder

1,428 posts

77 months

Yesterday (21:40)
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BunkMoreland said:
I would say I undertake at least 3 cars every single time I use triple lane roads.

fk the idiots who cant drive!
Agree. I used to feel quite uneasy about it as it felt unsafe, but I've come to realise these dimwits will never pull over in to my path as they are totally oblivious.

See also people who speed up as you try to overtake them at a constant speed and /or pass you or be passed only to re-emerge a mile or so later and then slow down again.

To address the OP's odd post about the caliber of car and therefore driver, I often see the opposite. Its usually people in farty Mercs or (a)RS(e) Audi's that are racing each other in a desperate attempt to show how manly they are.

Knobs are not exclusively poor, or rich. They are seemingly at any class or income level.

uktrailmonster

8,127 posts

219 months

Yesterday (21:46)
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What about the very common scenario where you are in the outside lane of a busy motorway at 70-80 mph following a train of cars stretching out as far as you can see and then some bellend undertakes you and as many other cars as it can before then swerving back into the outside lane. They are basically going nowhere, but can’t accept the reality that their speed is traffic limited.

Often they will cut right across into the inside lane because they see an opportunity to undercut a couple more cars and then get boxed in and lose all the places they made up with their previous move. So then they do it all over again. I find those drivers really annoying like a house fly buzzing around you that just won’t go away.

Lincsls1

3,806 posts

159 months

Yesterday (21:48)
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Leftfootwonder said:
See also people who speed up as you try to overtake them at a constant speed and /or pass you or be passed only to re-emerge a mile or so later and then slow down again.

Knobs are not exclusively poor, or rich. They are seemingly at any class or income level.
Yes this. Very frustrating and very obvious when you have to drive a company vehicle limited to 67mph.
Everyday I catch up folk, move right and alongside during the overtake, only to find them slowly pull away from me, only to then slow down again. Rinse and repeat for miles.

Super Sonic

11,034 posts

73 months

Yesterday (21:52)
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uktrailmonster said:
What about the very common scenario where you are in the outside lane of a busy motorway at 70-80 mph following a train of cars stretching out as far as you can see and then some bellend undertakes you and as many other cars as it can before then swerving back into the outside lane. They are basically going nowhere, but can t accept the reality that their speed is traffic limited.

Often they will cut right across into the inside lane because they see an opportunity to undercut a couple more cars and then get boxed in and lose all the places they made up with their previous move. So then they do it all over again. I find those drivers really annoying like a house fly buzzing around you that just won t go away.
Get out of the outside lane. In the scenario you describe, there is plenty of room in the lane(s) to your left if a car is undertaking.
Why are you in the right hand lane if you're not overtaking?

Blakewater

4,482 posts

176 months

Yesterday (22:01)
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Super Sonic said:
uktrailmonster said:
What about the very common scenario where you are in the outside lane of a busy motorway at 70-80 mph following a train of cars stretching out as far as you can see and then some bellend undertakes you and as many other cars as it can before then swerving back into the outside lane. They are basically going nowhere, but can t accept the reality that their speed is traffic limited.

Often they will cut right across into the inside lane because they see an opportunity to undercut a couple more cars and then get boxed in and lose all the places they made up with their previous move. So then they do it all over again. I find those drivers really annoying like a house fly buzzing around you that just won t go away.
Get out of the outside lane. In the scenario you describe, there is plenty of room in the lane(s) to your left if a car is undertaking.
Why are you in the right hand lane if you're not overtaking?
How do we decide who should "defend" their position in the outside lane because they want to go faster than what's in front and who should move in and cede their place to those behind?

What if the person in front of you in the outside lane queue ultimately wants to go faster than your chosen cruising speed once the traffic clears? If he allows you past him, or if you force your way past, you're just becoming part of what's holding him up.

There's also a difference between passing on the inside because someone is lane hogging and cutting through people's safe stopping distances, obliging them to make allowances for your aggressive driving.

Mr Tidy

28,160 posts

146 months

Yesterday (22:12)
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Super Sonic said:
uktrailmonster said:
What about the very common scenario where you are in the outside lane of a busy motorway at 70-80 mph following a train of cars stretching out as far as you can see and then some bellend undertakes you and as many other cars as it can before then swerving back into the outside lane. They are basically going nowhere, but can t accept the reality that their speed is traffic limited.

Often they will cut right across into the inside lane because they see an opportunity to undercut a couple more cars and then get boxed in and lose all the places they made up with their previous move. So then they do it all over again. I find those drivers really annoying like a house fly buzzing around you that just won t go away.
Get out of the outside lane. In the scenario you describe, there is plenty of room in the lane(s) to your left if a car is undertaking.
Why are you in the right hand lane if you're not overtaking?
I often experience this, usually when the inside lane is empty and someone in the middle lane wants to do 62 mph so pulls into the outside lane in a gutless car to try to overtake someone doing 60 mph which takes up to half a mile. The rest of us in the outside lane want to do 70ish so why move into the middle lane only to have to move back out?

The sort of nutters the OP describes usually go steaming past in the inside lane until they come up behind another vehicle, then cut someone up to get back out a bit further up the queue. Maybe they aren't British - we like a good queue!

otolith

63,654 posts

223 months

Yesterday (22:13)
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I’ve seen one in a 3-series on the M25 using all the lanes to undertake including the hard shoulder. It’s frustrating when there’s a combination of heavy traffic and poor lane discipline, but you can’t drive like that.

uktrailmonster

8,127 posts

219 months

Yesterday (22:22)
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Super Sonic said:
uktrailmonster said:
What about the very common scenario where you are in the outside lane of a busy motorway at 70-80 mph following a train of cars stretching out as far as you can see and then some bellend undertakes you and as many other cars as it can before then swerving back into the outside lane. They are basically going nowhere, but can t accept the reality that their speed is traffic limited.

Often they will cut right across into the inside lane because they see an opportunity to undercut a couple more cars and then get boxed in and lose all the places they made up with their previous move. So then they do it all over again. I find those drivers really annoying like a house fly buzzing around you that just won t go away.
Get out of the outside lane. In the scenario you describe, there is plenty of room in the lane(s) to your left if a car is undertaking.
Why are you in the right hand lane if you're not overtaking?
I’m in the outside lane because there is a line of traffic in front of me stretching out to the horizon that I can’t overtake. I thought that was obvious. But maybe you are the one doing the pointless undertaking in that scenario?

QuattroDave

1,736 posts

147 months

Yesterday (22:24)
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ThingsBehindTheSun said:
Where did all the 60MPH middle lane hoggers on the motorway come from? I am sure they are sitting there convinced they are the safest drivers on the road as the "maniacs" constantly pull out from the inside lane to the outside lane to over take, or just undertake them at 70MPH.

I had one late at night on a deserted A3 flash his lights at me as I sat in the inside lane maintaining 70MPH with cruise control and just undertook him.

Just fking move over, but they never get the message.
I passed a mercedes c class coupe on the M27 a couple of weeks ago. I was doing 70mph in lane 1 and they must have been doing no more than 60mph in lane 2. About 5 car lengths after I passed them in lane 1 I got a barrage of flashing lights, followed by them catching up to me and violently swerving into my lane forcing me to take evasive action (there was a filter lane to my left for Jn9).

They did this to me two more times before I decided it was safer to take the Jn9 exit rather than continue with them to Jn8.

I was in my i3 rather than one of my bigger, more powerful cars so I wonder if they were particularly butt hurt by being silently passed.

Blakewater

4,482 posts

176 months

Yesterday (22:37)
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Mr Tidy said:
I often experience this, usually when the inside lane is empty and someone in the middle lane wants to do 62 mph so pulls into the outside lane in a gutless car to try to overtake someone doing 60 mph which takes up to half a mile. The rest of us in the outside lane want to do 70ish so why move into the middle lane only to have to move back out?
I was behind someone doing this on the M6, crawling past a couple of cars in the middle lane. I was alongside the first whilst he was formation flying next to the second. The pillock behind in the Transit van flashed his headlights at me, demonstrating he may well fail a roadside eye test as he couldn't see beyond me to what the actual hold up was. I couldn't either move in or speed up, so I don't know quite what he expected the result of his tantrum to be. Safe to say I showed him what was what when the guy in front eventually did move over.

Asian weddings and people heading home from Chester races after a few champaigns and lines of coke also deserve special mentions for weaving through traffic before ending up trapped amongst the slow movers and being passed by everyone again.