Not just Italy - fake Ferrari owner in bother in Spain
Not just Italy - fake Ferrari owner in bother in Spain
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Shnozz

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30,330 posts

297 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Local rag reporting the seller of a replica Ferrari is in hot water...

https://cadenaser.com/murcia/2026/06/02/detenido-p...

Funnily enough I had seen it for sale locally in recent times.

Flyingakite

190 posts

1 month

Tuesday 2nd June
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What's the crime, result take off badges?

The fact it is much cheaper cleanly indicates it is a replica Shirley,?

Lotobear

8,824 posts

154 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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he's bought a Luce?

Super Sonic

13,292 posts

80 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Flyingakite said:
What's the crime, result take off badges?

The fact it is much cheaper cleanly indicates it is a replica Shirley,?
Taking the badges of a fake Ferrari doesn't stop it being a fake Ferrari.

Flyingakite

190 posts

1 month

Tuesday 2nd June
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Ermm it does. Heard of kitcars?

Super Sonic

13,292 posts

80 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Flyingakite said:
Ermm it does. Heard of kitcars?
Yes I have. Doesn't make what I said incorrect ie A fake Ferrari with badges removed is still a fake Ferrari.

Shnozz

Original Poster:

30,330 posts

297 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Flyingakite said:
What's the crime, result take off badges?

The fact it is much cheaper cleanly indicates it is a replica Shirley,?
It's an interesting one. As you say, the price dictated it wasn't the real deal and anyone in the market can plainly see that from 50 paces as usual.

Looks like its a copyright issue which seems a bit draconian. I mean, I understand why the Italian authorities get sniffy on clones of their own products, but the Spanish police to do so seems a bit harsh.

gshughes

1,331 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Shnozz said:
Looks like its a copyright issue which seems a bit draconian. .
Yes a civil offence surely, not a Police matter.

98elise

31,900 posts

187 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Super Sonic said:
Flyingakite said:
Ermm it does. Heard of kitcars?
Yes I have. Doesn't make what I said incorrect ie A fake Ferrari with badges removed is still a fake Ferrari.
Agreed.

Panamax

8,865 posts

60 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Super Sonic said:
Taking the badges of a fake Ferrari doesn't stop it being a fake Ferrari.
Depends what country you're in.

Some countries only protect the "name and badge" while others protect the "shape", a bit like copyright in a book or artwork.

Super Sonic

13,292 posts

80 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Panamax said:
Super Sonic said:
Taking the badges of a fake Ferrari doesn't stop it being a fake Ferrari.
Depends what country you're in.

Some countries only protect the "name and badge" while others protect the "shape", a bit like copyright in a book or artwork.
Hmm. Although Ferrari may not have any legal redress in some jurisdictions, I would say it's still a fake Ferrari, if it is built to look like, and does look like, a Ferrari.

Shnozz

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30,330 posts

297 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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gshughes said:
Shnozz said:
Looks like its a copyright issue which seems a bit draconian. .
Yes a civil offence surely, not a Police matter.
There is a funny area of Spanish law whereby you can issue a denuncia for what in the UK would be a civil offence and it then comes on the radar as a criminal offence in Spain. What I find odd here, however, is who would be pursuing anything of that nature as surely its no one at Maranello.

Either way, interesting outcome so far.

98elise

31,900 posts

187 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Super Sonic said:
Panamax said:
Super Sonic said:
Taking the badges of a fake Ferrari doesn't stop it being a fake Ferrari.
Depends what country you're in.

Some countries only protect the "name and badge" while others protect the "shape", a bit like copyright in a book or artwork.
Hmm. Although Ferrari may not have any legal redress in some jurisdictions, I would say it's still a fake Ferrari, if it is built to look like, and does look like, a Ferrari.
Agreed. Thats the point of the kit/body conversions in the first place.

Wether they can protect their design in a particular country is a different matter.

Geertsen

1,791 posts

85 months

Friday 5th June
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Here is the article:

Man arrested for selling a fake Ferrari built on another vehicle

National Police in Murcia detect a car that imitated a Ferrari 360 Spider with counterfeit logos and design



Murcia - The National Police have arrested a man in Elche for an alleged crime against industrial property after he put a vehicle up for sale that imitated a Ferrari. The investigation began after an online advertisement was found for a car resembling the 360 ​​Spider model at a price far below the usual rate.

The agents, from the Cybercrime group of the Murcia Police Headquarters, verified that it was a replica built on the chassis of another brand, using fiberglass and low-cost materials, but illegally reproducing the design lines, logos and typography of the Italian firm.

The operation led to the vehicle being located in the El Altet area, where it was impounded. Despite having documentation compliant with traffic regulations, investigators concluded that the use of Ferrari identifying elements constituted a criminal offense.

The detainee is accused of infringing the brand's industrial property rights, in an action that highlights the police's increased vigilance against this type of fraud in the used car market.

Geertsen

1,791 posts

85 months

Friday 5th June
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I sold a Harley Davidson fabric iron-on patch online about 10 years ago, it was a cheapo one I didn’t know the origin of but sold it for a few pounds while having a clear out. I kid you not, Harley Davidson contacted me and threatened legal action!! Unbelievable really, over a patch. It must’ve cost them more money paying someone to write the letter than I’d have made if I sold 100 of the things.

Shnozz

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297 months

Friday 5th June
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One of the reasons I find it so incredible that action has been pursued is the abundance of sellers who sell knock off branded clothing at every market across Spain and every beach front.

Further, the fact that almost every bar shows ‘sky’ tv via a dodgy box or suchlike rather than a legal feed.

Yet this has led to an arrest.

Jap90s

1,934 posts

147 months

Friday 5th June
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I know that generally the UK accepts replica kitcars but thinking about it, why do we ?

We don't accept fake handbags, designer clothing etc and have Trading Standards to enforce it (albeit there are a lot of counterfeits around)

Why are cars the exception ?

Lotobear

8,824 posts

154 months

Friday 5th June
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Jap90s said:
I know that generally the UK accepts replica kitcars but thinking about it, why do we ?

We don't accept fake handbags, designer clothing etc and have Trading Standards to enforce it (albeit there are a lot of counterfeits around)

Why are cars the exception ?
I guess because it would be impossible to dupe someone into believing that they are buying the genuine thing when it comes to a car

Flyingakite

190 posts

1 month

Friday 5th June
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Will Hyundai sue Ferrari for ripping its luce design off them.

People are way too precious. It's a car. A homage etc homage is ok replica is sin .

Panamax

8,865 posts

60 months

Friday 5th June
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Jap90s said:
Why are cars the exception ?
They aren't. In UK, faking a "brand" is not permitted on anything.