1.2 'fun' car, is it possible?
1.2 'fun' car, is it possible?
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TAHodgson

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875 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Currently have a 1.2 punto mk2. And although it's fairly nippy for a little engine, I wouldn't really call it fun. So I'm looking for something different, 1.2 or less if there is such a thing?! I'd rather have a different car than mess with suspension etc on this one. It's not that i'm after power (in a 1.2? Not going to happen) just something that is good fun on the twisties. Any ideas?

deveng

3,920 posts

209 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Generally, fun cars have bigger engines than 1.2 so that they are fun through corners and have enough to keep you going on straights.

Why not go for an MX5? (not being ironic, OP wants a small engined fun car).

busta

4,504 posts

262 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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If you can increase your capacity threshold by 100cc, you won't find anything much more fun that a S1 106 Rallye. 1.3, 100hp, 7500rpm buzz box!

insanojackson

6,020 posts

273 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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smart roadster?

CanadianScot

1,916 posts

195 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Why 1.2 or less? If it's for insurance, engine size doesn't mean anything. I suppose there's a rough relationship, but not a definitive one.

Wattsie

1,161 posts

230 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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1.25 Fiesta?

Defcon5

6,468 posts

220 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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busta said:
If you can increase your capacity threshold by 100cc, you won't find anything much more fun that a S1 106 Rallye. 1.3, 100hp, 7500rpm buzz box!
This - although I assume you are limiting yourself to 1.2s for insurance reasons

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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The lightest car you can find with a 1.2 engine.

insanojackson

6,020 posts

273 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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insanojackson said:
smart roadster?
or maybe a charade gtti or whatever they are called?

TAHodgson

Original Poster:

875 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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CanadianScot said:
Why 1.2 or less? If it's for insurance, engine size doesn't mean anything. I suppose there's a rough relationship, but not a definitive one.
Well, i'm on a trade policy. But have to have my own car for Social, domestic and pleasure usage. And because i'm only 17, our insurer has in a round about way said that for my first year they don't like the idea of me having anything more than a 1.2. Not saying they wouldn't insure me, but mine and my dad's premium would significantly increase. And we can't really afford to do that, and if we didn't have the insurance, we wouldn't be able to work. So that's my situation frown

patmahe

5,919 posts

233 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Aygo, 107, C1.

1.0 cool little 3 cylinder motor, 950kg and a wheel on each corner. A lot of fun. Fun has very little to do with power.

Defcon5

6,468 posts

220 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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patmahe said:
Aygo, 107, C1.

1.0 cool little 3 cylinder motor, 950kg and a wheel on each corner. A lot of fun. Fun has very little to do with power.
Nice skinny tyres too

maxi1990

26 posts

189 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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saxo 1.1i, no power steering, no electric windows, strip out every single bit that you dont need (passenger seat included), bigger brakes and stiffer suspension, its the only way you will ever get fun out of a 1.2 or less

CanadianScot

1,916 posts

195 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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TAHodgson said:
Well, i'm on a trade policy. But have to have my own car for Social, domestic and pleasure usage. And because i'm only 17, our insurer has in a round about way said that for my first year they don't like the idea of me having anything more than a 1.2. Not saying they wouldn't insure me, but mine and my dad's premium would significantly increase. And we can't really afford to do that, and if we didn't have the insurance, we wouldn't be able to work. So that's my situation frown
Fair enough, has to be done I guess!

I guess the lightest things possible then, as said. Classic Mini would be fun and cheap to insure. I couldn't do it, but I know people who run/ran them daily.

Fruitcake

3,850 posts

255 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Keeping with the FIAT theme:


deveng

3,920 posts

209 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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maxi1990 said:
saxo 1.1i, no power steering, no electric windows, strip out every single bit that you dont need (passenger seat included), bigger brakes and stiffer suspension, its the only way you will ever get fun out of a 1.2 or less
Bigger brakes will increase unsprung mass which has a massive effect on handling, so is a big no no. If it's light and has little power than I can't imagine it will need big brakes, and reducing weight will reduce braking requirements making an upgrade pointless.

_g_

741 posts

230 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Smart roadster, Suzuki Cappuccino or similar?

Plenty of bike engined kit cars (or even production cars converted) with 1 litre engiens, but you'll have to read the terms of your trade policy carefully to see if those are covered. Just collected a MNR vortex R1 and it's reasonably nippy - little faster than my m3 in a straight line on the road and no doubt faster in the corners, but building up to that!
And of course, probably not ideal as an 'only' car!

sebhaque

6,534 posts

210 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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patmahe said:
Aygo, 107, C1.

1.0 cool little 3 cylinder motor, 950kg and a wheel on each corner. A lot of fun. Fun has very little to do with power.
I agree, I believe you can also get a 3 cyl Yaris or Polo?

Nonetheless, great fun. You can rag it through first and second, hearing the engine sing, and you're only doing 40 at the end of it smile. The Aygo I had also cornered on its door handles, and it was a real laugh driving it.

Bear in mind the Aygo/107/C1 only have four seats and a completely useless boot. Still, fun for just you and a friend!

ChevronB19

9,072 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Kei car? (If I've spelt it right...)

Classic mini

Citroen 2CV (honestly - hysterical to drive)

Classic Fiat 500

Ginetta G15

Hillman Imp

Lots of possibilities if you want to go classic, plus you get to learn a bit about how they work and how to fix them!

christofmccracke

881 posts

229 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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I had a 1.0 vw lupo with no abs or powersteering, was much more fun than my 2009 corsa 1.2