gah, winter wheels stuck fast...

[edo]

went to swap the recently refurbished summers back on. nice trolley jack. 20 minutes I thought.

Not a chance. Wheels wont budge - tried wd40, a rubber mallet, but the f*ckers wont budge. Just to add insult to injury the poxy audi security wheel nut wotsit has broken too, so after an hour we are back where we started.

Suggestions?

The arse is driving it to a tyre place since I then have to borrow my mates jeep to shuffle wheels about which is a right ball ache....

[Godzuki]

Didn't use molycoat then?

[edo]

tyre depot who put them on dont appear to have done, no.....

[snotrag]

Undo wheelnuts half a turn at a time, lower car gently onto wheels - rock back and crack them off.

NOTE - do so at your own peril, use your own judgement, no responsibility taken by me etc etc...

I've had to do this once before.

[Globs]

Usually heat and constant force does the trick for getting stuff undone IME.
Perhaps get some heat into them with some heavy braking?
I'd tighten back the nuts for this operation myself.

Constant force - if you jack (and support!) both sides at once try a jack + sticks sideways under the front to force the bottom of each tyre away from the other? Just add some pressure (ideally with a mechanical scissor jack) and let it sit for a few minutes.

Good luck!

[adam85]

Have you tried to rock and rotate, both hands at 9 and 3 o'clock on the wheel, rock side to side, rotate and repeat. The slightest movement can start to loosen the wheels - I had to do this with my car also - best of luck.

[edo]

Thanks all.

I had to give up due to failing light and irritation!

Now got to go to Audi and get a new locking wheel nut removal thingy which has broken apart inside just to add insult to injury.

No doubt Audi will want v5/passport/million quid for a new one!

[Targarama]

As has been said, just lower the trolley jack so the weight of the car loosens the wheels (leave nuts on loose). Then jack it back up. Can't help with crusty nuts though.

[Carrot]

As said before, loosen nuts slightly, release handbrake and move the car to "crack" it, have heard once that it could shear the bolts, never had it happen 3 or so times on different cars I have needed to do it.

Secondly, get the winter tyres to do it for you, they can do anything you know...

[Bill]

If it's a McGard locking wheel nut they'll replace it foc IME, and they're pretty efficient.

[edo]

Bill said:

If it's a McGard locking wheel nut they'll replace it foc IME, and they're pretty efficient.

Thanks - is that who supply Audi?

[Tallbut Buxomly]

fk off irritating that. I always put a little copper grease on the hub (well hub section of the disk) and nuts so that this issue doesnt occur sadly wheel and tyre places dont bother.
Was in surrey this arvo and would have been happy to stop by and lend you my locking nut but am local to home tomorrow so no go.

[samdale]

Targarama said:

As has been said, just lower the trolley jack so the weight of the car loosens the wheels (leave nuts on loose). Then jack it back up. Can't help with crusty nuts though.

What's this people keep saying about loosening wheel nuts? From the OP (as I understand it, and the fact he's mentioned the locking wheel key broke) the wheel nuts are what is giving him grief, not tightly fitting wheels. Could be wrong though

[edo]

Sorry, just to clarify, my nuts are fine

They all came out fine, I just cant get the wheel off the hub.

The wotsit for the locking wheel nut split inside as I was giving up putting the bolts back in...

(squiggly bit inside it has sheared off).

[HowMuchLonger]

Loosen as much as you can, then drive to Asda for some donuts.

[WhoseGeneration]

edo said:

tyre depot who put them on dont appear to have done, no.....

They won't, get back home, wheels off, thin smear of hi temp grease or copaslip on hub wheel interface, then back on and torque up.
Check torque after couple hundred miles.
I've said this before, get 4 extra wheelnuts or bolts and fit them before taking to garage or tyre place, so they don't use airtools on your locking key.

[Jimmyarm]

You need to hit them harder with a bigger & harder hammer

I use a lump hammer and a handy piece of wood on any that are properly stuck.

[Prince Jefri]

Jimmyarm said:

You need to hit them harder with a bigger & harder hammer

I use a lump hammer and a handy piece of wood on any that are properly stuck.

I agree. In many years i've never failed with this method. If at first you fail, hit it slightly harder. If that does not work.....full power whack and it'll never fail to work!

[Blakeatron]

sit on floor and kick with both fit - worked on the old 4x4

[dylan0451]

are these steel wheels your winters are on? you haven't been using the original wheel bolts designed for your alloys have you?

if they're steel, with the wheel in the air move it round slowly as you smack fk out of it from the inside with a club hammer

sometimes even hammering it as if you were trying to hammer it on causes enough shock to break the seal of corrosion

wipe a bit of lube over the mating face next time and it shouldn't do it.