Focus Van - Did Ford sell these?
Focus Van - Did Ford sell these?
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vit4

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3,507 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/makemodel/make/ford/m...

Never seen one/heard of one before, but don't see the point in somebody doing it afterwards when there are so many better alternatives? confused

Shaw Tarse

31,888 posts

232 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Looks like it has been "converted"'

Kiltox

14,863 posts

187 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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That's cool but I think it's been modified unless Ford make them for another market and it's an import.

The Transit Connect fills this segment surely.

EDIT - http://www.ford.ie/CommercialVehicles/FocusVan/Ove...

It's an Irish import.

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Yeah looks like an Irish import. Think VW do the same with the Golf.

rpguk

4,515 posts

313 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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These car based vans are really popular in Ireland. I don't know if there's a tax break for them or something but they wouldn't be too difficult for the car companies to make. Take a 3 door hatchback, strip the rear seats and stick a metal panel in it's place.

Stuey145

274 posts

187 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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rpguk said:
These car based vans are really popular in Ireland. I don't know if there's a tax break for them or something but they wouldn't be too difficult for the car companies to make. Take a 3 door hatchback, strip the rear seats and stick a metal panel in it's place.
Now how irish is THAT!!!!

Build a car, then rip the seats and windows out and replace the windows with metal. To be sure!

How about the car companies not put the seats IN and get the robots to NOT cut the window apertures.

Nah?? too obvious.

wolf1

3,099 posts

279 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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They've been around for donkeys just not as popular as vans. The side windows are either full plastic replacements for the originals or just covers. Floor is usually ply lined with some having carpet glued on. Used to be mainly small stuff like fiestas and peugeot 206s. Not sure about tax breaks though. Manufacturers aren't going to re-tool their industry for such a small market which is why they tend to be converted by van lining companies as and when a customer requires them.

Stuey145

274 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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inkiboo said:
They even made a Range Rover Sport Commercial



Why? I mean REALLY. WHY???? A £50k van? That you can't fit much in to????????

cptsideways

13,883 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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inkiboo said:
They even made a Range Rover Sport Commercial

Nice & safe towball bracket there yikes

Stuey145

274 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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inkiboo said:
Tax.
To be sure.

Paid 50k for a RR Sport but dont'y ye worry boys, I'm saveeeen meself 3k a year over the 10k van I coulda bought

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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http://www.irishlinks.co.uk/car-tax-ireland.htm

On a RRS that's quite a big reduction in tax.

Dino D

1,953 posts

250 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Stuey145 said:
inkiboo said:
Tax.
To be sure.

Paid 50k for a RR Sport but dont'y ye worry boys, I'm saveeeen meself 3k a year over the 10k van I coulda bought
I don't think they are that dumb - the van conversion looks to be easily removable so just a way to get through a loophole - buy it as a 'van' and then put the seats back in.

Would be hit in UK though for all those posh dog owners too...

Odhran

579 posts

212 months

The Wookie

14,209 posts

257 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Yep they're irish imports and it's a tax break thing over there. Girlfriend's Dad has a mk1 Focus diesel item, and will soon have a Kuga believe it or not

vdubbin

2,175 posts

226 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Up to this year,(I think they have changed things a bit in the last Budget) commercial vans paid a flat rate of €50 p.a. road tax, and VAT can be reclaimed on diesel. A lot of these vans are bought by tradesmen, apprentices, and junior reps, as they're cheaper to run than a Caddy/Transit Connect. Nearly every brand will offer a converted hatch, Citroen sell a C4 van, VW a Golf. Some of the newer vans have tinted rear glass, so you don't even see the metal panels.

Stuey145

274 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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I'm not knocking it or critisising. I think they're brilliant and if it saves some dosh from the evil taxman, then all the better!!!!!

1

2,732 posts

265 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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I'm surprised they aren't more popular over here, the potential tax savings are huge.

£50k RRS P11d = £17500 thats £583pm in tax

£50k RRS Commercial P11d = £3k - a saving of £483pm!

Not to mention the write-down allowances go up from 10% to 20% (less personal usage) and they can claim the VAT back on the purchase.

So over 3 years the company will save £10/12k and the driver around £17k in tax!

I could give up my back seats for that sort of saving, especially as I might have to store the rear seats in the back of my commercial vehicle anyway!





Waiver - My calculations are probably wrong, I'm not an accountant, please speak to your own accountant before you order a commercial vehicle. Your home may be at risk if you borrow money against it to fund a RRS. People may think you have a small penis if you drive a RRS.

Kiltox

14,863 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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1 said:
Waiver - My calculations are probably wrong, I'm not an accountant, please speak to your own accountant before you order a commercial vehicle. Your home may be at risk if you borrow money against it to fund a RRS. People may think you have a small penis if you drive a RRS.
biglaughbiglaugh

maffski

1,905 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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1 said:
I'm surprised they aren't more popular over here, the potential tax savings are huge.

£50k RRS P11d = £17500 thats £583pm in tax

£50k RRS Commercial P11d = £3k - a saving of £483pm!...
You forgot fuel as well, as a commercial the company can pay for all fuel and you get charged BIK of 500 quid, considering the amount of fuel these go through thats better than paying income tax and then putting then filling it up yourself.

Just about every time you see a double cab 4x4 that isn't on a farm/building site then this is the reason.

Swoxy

2,842 posts

239 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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How could you have missed the Scirocco Van? ...