Uninsured driver
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J4CKO

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46,824 posts

229 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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My mum told me about her speaking to her neighbour, she said she had seen his son driving so assumed congratulations were in order as he had passed his test, indeed he had, she remarked that it must have cost a fortune to insure a new driver on a car like his (Audi A4 Cab, turbo petrol something or other), turns out he isn't insured to drive it....


He looked sheepish but said he only goes to the shops in it which is round the corner or only drives when they are with him, the quote was 8 grand so they have decided to just not bother by the sounds of it, my mum doesn't want to get involved and fall out with them but to be honest I would make it clear if I see him again I would ring the Police, I don't think the kid needs to start his driving career with a ban but he needs to stop driving a high powered car round uninsured, there is a reason the premium is 8 grand for a 17 year old.

Disco You

3,748 posts

209 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Thanks for sharing.

Evangelion

8,648 posts

207 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Shopping him is a bit harsh.

I'd still do it though if I were you. You could be saving someone's life.

saaby93

32,038 posts

207 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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I cant quite get my head around how Continuous Insurance Enforcement is going to prevent this.
I put it in the same category as wifey driving hubby's company car to pop to the shops
- it's insured isn't it?
yes but not for you <big pointy finger>

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Evangelion said:
Shopping him is a bit harsh.

I'd still do it though if I were you. You could be saving someone's life.
As much as I dislike uninsured drivers, I fail to see how insurance saves lives.

skinley

1,681 posts

189 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Mattt said:
As much as I dislike uninsured drivers, I fail to see how insurance saves lives.
+1

Monty Python

4,813 posts

226 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Maybe you should point out that his mum would be done as well if he was caught for knowingly allowing him to drive uninsured.

J4CKO

Original Poster:

46,824 posts

229 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Mattt said:
As much as I dislike uninsured drivers, I fail to see how insurance saves lives.
Due to cost, by preventing inexperienced drivers as a general rule from driving cars that are too powerful for them, at the very least if he bumps you and there is no injury its way more complicated than if he was insured.

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

228 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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When he crashes and someone puts in a huge personal injury claim via the uninsured loss recovery set up everyones insurance goes up by another few £.

Oh and I would rather spend £8k than risk prison or a criminal record, and nobody forces a 17 year old to drive an Audi illegally.

Camaro91

2,675 posts

195 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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J4CKO said:
Mattt said:
As much as I dislike uninsured drivers, I fail to see how insurance saves lives.
Due to cost, by preventing inexperienced drivers as a general rule from driving cars that are too powerful for them, at the very least if he bumps you and there is no injury its way more complicated than if he was insured.
I used to pay £1750 a year when I passed, on a 1.6 Escort Automatic. All I can say is thank god for that premium or I might not be here today biggrin

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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J4CKO said:
Due to cost, by preventing inexperienced drivers as a general rule from driving cars that are too powerful for them, at the very least if he bumps you and there is no injury its way more complicated than if he was insured.
Tenuous.

skinley

1,681 posts

189 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Chrisw666 said:


Oh and I would rather spend £8k than risk prison or a criminal record, and nobody forces a 17 year old to drive an Audi illegally.
Prison for driving uninsured? lol.

over_the_hill

3,331 posts

275 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Monty Python said:
Maybe you should point out that his mum would be done as well if he was caught for knowingly allowing him to drive uninsured.
Correct.

If stopped he will be done for no insurance. His mom will then be done for knowingly letting an uninsured driver use the car.

At this point the parent usually claims that they did not know their offspring had used the car thinking this will get them off - which it will, but then offspring will be done for no insurance and TWOC.

So choice to parent is insurance charges to both or turn their kid into a car thief.

That should convince them.

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Chrisw666 said:
When he crashes and someone puts in a huge personal injury claim via the uninsured loss recovery set up everyones insurance goes up by another few £.

Oh and I would rather spend £8k than risk prison or a criminal record, and nobody forces a 17 year old to drive an Audi illegally.
Bingo! I know that at 17 my parents would not let me drive their car uninsured. How is that repsonsible parenting? "Its £8k son, so just drive it....you'll be fine"

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

228 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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skinley said:
Chrisw666 said:


Oh and I would rather spend £8k than risk prison or a criminal record, and nobody forces a 17 year old to drive an Audi illegally.
Prison for driving uninsured? lol.
Driving a car with no regard for one of the basic laws that you must obey before getting behind the wheel is a slippery slope.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Cost of legal as a 17year old £8000

Cost of illegal as 17 if caught £400

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

228 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Cost of legal as a 17year old £8000

Cost of illegal as 17 if caught £400
If an uninsured driver hit your car would you

a) Want to shake his hand for saving money

b) Want to kick him in the bks and reverse over his PS3?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Chrisw666 said:
thinfourth2 said:
Cost of legal as a 17year old £8000

Cost of illegal as 17 if caught £400
If an uninsured driver hit your car would you

a) Want to shake his hand for saving money

b) Want to kick him in the bks and reverse over his PS3?
I fail to see the relevance of your post.

i really really don't

Do you think i support the fact that the typical fine for being uninsured is 6 times less then the cost of a 17year old being insured

tyranical

927 posts

219 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Shop the fker.

There really is no other way. If his mother condones it, then reporting him is the obvious way to solve it but just don't let him know it was you or you might find your car with a nice key mark down the side.

Someone will come on here blah blah don't get involved, noone likes a snitch etc but at the end of the day its our fking insurance that goes up because of s like that and just imagine one day he crashes into you or someone you know how annoyed/guilty are you going to feel knowing you could of done something about that?

He could easily buy a less powerful car!

J4CKO

Original Poster:

46,824 posts

229 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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If nothing else, by letting him drive it they are opening him up to a potential problems for the future, if he does get caught he will get a criminal record and wont get touched for insurance for some years, even at the usual two grand plus for a young driver.

I don't know how it is Tenuous, new driver plus a 200 bhp car and no insurance sounds like a recipe for problems to me, he was seen "skidding the tyres" showing off to the younger kids playing football.

Im not going to shop him, I don't live there.