Convertible: E46 v A4 v 9-3
Convertible: E46 v A4 v 9-3
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JonnyO

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237 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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I have about £6-6.5k to spend on a 4 seater convertible (want some open top fun in the sun and have 2 kids)
Which one from the choice of a BMW E46 3 series, Audi A4 or Saab 9-3 would you choose?
Or, are there any other options (classics?) that I should consider instead?

Crusoe

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260 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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ZesPak

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225 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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If you really want a 4 seater convertible, imho the saab will give you the best vfm.
The 3 series is pretty cramped and the A4 isn't much better.

JonnyO

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237 posts

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Thursday 7th April 2011
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Crusoe said:
Really don't need the maintenance costs of an M3 smile My recently acquired 330i Touring will hurt the pocket enough as it is!

JonnyO

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229 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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ZesPak said:
If you really want a 4 seater convertible, imho the saab will give you the best vfm.
The 3 series is pretty cramped and the A4 isn't much better.
Ahh, right. I should go look at all 3 then. So the 9-3 has much better rear space than the other 2? I knew the e46 was supposed to be a bit cramped but thought the A4 was ok?

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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The 2002 9-3 I drove suffered from awful scuttle-shake. It really was a jelly!

I can't really speak for the other two. E46 may be the better drive, whilst the Audi is nicer looking (imo) and will always be in demand when/if you decide to sell on...

JonnyO

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Thursday 7th April 2011
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Baz Tench said:
The 2002 9-3 I drove suffered from awful scuttle-shake. It really was a jelly!

I can't really speak for the other two. E46 may be the better drive, whilst the Audi is nicer looking (imo) and will always be in demand when/if you decide to sell on...
Was hoping to get a post 2003 9-3 for that kind of money. Most folks seem to say its a whole lot better in terms of rigidity than the previous model.

ZesPak

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225 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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JonnyO said:
ZesPak said:
If you really want a 4 seater convertible, imho the saab will give you the best vfm.
The 3 series is pretty cramped and the A4 isn't much better.
Ahh, right. I should go look at all 3 then. So the 9-3 has much better rear space than the other 2? I knew the e46 was supposed to be a bit cramped but thought the A4 was ok?
Well, the A4 will be ok for kids and is better than the 3-series, though in terms of space the Saab 9-3 will have both of them beat hands down, combined with lower second hand prices they often seem like a bargain compared to similar A4's and 3-series.
Go and have a drive with all three though. I haven't driven the A4 yet, but I've driven an E46 (318i though getmecoat) and the saab, and I have to say that the saab, well, euhm, is a great convertible. As in I wouldn't like it that much with the top up.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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Fit a 22mm rear anti roll bar (20 minutes, 30 quid) and it transforms the handling- I couldn't believe how much it improved mine.

RH

Edited by Rovinghawk on Thursday 7th April 13:02

Baz Tench

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219 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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JonnyO said:
Was hoping to get a post 2003 9-3 for that kind of money. Most folks seem to say its a whole lot better in terms of rigidity than the previous model.
I did wonder if they'd sorted it on newer models. It was the only one I've driven and it was back in '05.

Rovinghawk

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187 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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JonnyO said:
ZesPak said:
If you really want a 4 seater convertible, imho the saab will give you the best vfm.
Ahh, right. I should go look at all 3 then.
Translation- you didn't really want the Saab. Why include it in the list, then?

loafer123

16,710 posts

244 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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I've got a 9-3 Convertible (07).

It's a good car - a bit thirsty - ~25mpg on spirited backroad driving - and comparatively high tax. It's not a sports car - the suspension is softer than both the Audi and BMW, I would think, but it is fast and grippy enough.

Very comfortable seats and some rear legroom if you don't need the front seats all the way back - I can drive happily enough with the seat forward a bit with 2 kids in the back and I'm 6'1". I have it all the way back when it's just me.

I have the cheapy 1.8t Linear (2.0l engine), but even that has remote lighting, full electric roof (while moving at slow speeds, too, which is good in April showers!), decent sound system etc.

The other trick is to buy the 1.8t and Hirsch/Abbott it which leapfrogs the 2.0T in torque and bhp and puts it close to the Aero. I'm thinking about doing that soon.


JonnyO

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Thursday 7th April 2011
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Rovinghawk said:
ranslation- you didn't really want the Saab. Why include it in the list, then?
Because I wasn't sure if the Saab was any good (the only one I have no personal experience of). However, if it's getting recommendations I'll take a look at one.

Rovinghawk

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187 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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JonnyO said:
However, if it's getting recommendations I'll take a look at one.
Upgrade the ARB, get a remap and decent tyres & it'll be quite an impressive tool for the money.

JonnyO

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Thursday 7th April 2011
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Are there any problems with Saab parts availability after their recent acquisition?

loafer123

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244 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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JonnyO said:
Are there any problems with Saab parts availability after their recent acquisition?
I don't think so - lots of parts sharing with GM anyway.

JonnyO

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229 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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Well the Saab looks like the favourite now then. Just got to find a good one!

nine6four

313 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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JonnyO said:
I have about £6-6.5k to spend on a 4 seater convertible (want some open top fun in the sun and have 2 kids)
Which one from the choice of a BMW E46 3 series, Audi A4 or Saab 9-3 would you choose?
Or, are there any other options (classics?) that I should consider instead?
I have the Audi Cab and have driven the other two extensively, and owned the saloon variants of them.

Saab is good value but feels the poor relation IMO. Having owned a 93 I wasn’t too impressed with reliability or service either.

The BMW is by far the best driver’s car (get the 330, same MPG as 323).

The Audi feels the most expensive one with best MPG (1.8T) and very decent interior and boot space. I think it’s the most stylish too.

Cheers

MattW

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313 months

Friday 8th April 2011
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nine6four said:
I have the Audi Cab and have driven the other two extensively, and owned the saloon variants of them.

Saab is good value but feels the poor relation IMO. Having owned a 93 I wasn’t too impressed with reliability or service either.

The BMW is by far the best driver’s car (get the 330, same MPG as 323).

The Audi feels the most expensive one with best MPG (1.8T) and very decent interior and boot space. I think it’s the most stylish too.

Cheers
Can you get a decent A4 cab for £6.5k? That will buy you quite a good spec low(ish) mileage Saab but in terms of an Audi won't this be buying you into a rough one?

JonnyO

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Friday 8th April 2011
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I've seen a couple of tidy looking ones at about that