Tuesday 12th April 2022

Jaguar announces F-Pace 400 Sport

Like the straight-six F-Paces, but need more Sport? Right this way...

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A few years ago now, Jaguar made the F-Type 400 Sport. A very nice car it was, too, adding a little more attitude in all the right places to the mid-range V6 S. Now the same methods are being employed for the much bigger selling F-Pace SUV, with a 400 Sport (and diesel-powered 300 Sport) joining the 2023 range.

As with the F-Type, the F-Pace 400 Sport uses six-cylinder power, though for this car it's the 3.0-litre Ingenium straight-six turbo. It's identical here to all other P400-badged JLR models, with 400hp, 406lb ft and mild hybrid assistance; 0-62mph is claimed in 5.4 seconds and the top speed is 155mph.

Marking the 400 Sport out are a range of cosmetic tweaks, with 21-inch black wheels, privacy glass, Black Pack and black roof rails all coming as standard. So best like black. Customers can upgrade the standard black wheels to 22-inch black wheels (gloss black with satin black inserts, no less) or - thank goodness - gloss silver with contrast inserts. The only exterior paint option is bla.. just kidding. Buyers of the 400 Sport will be offered 10 colours, including the 'premium metallic' Carpathian Grey and Charente Grey.

The Sport upgrades continue inside, with 16-way adjustable heated seats, a standard panoramic roof, Satin Charcoal Ash veneers, Ebony Suedecloth headliner and Premium Cabin Lighting. Something to break up the black, at least, with 30 colours available. Everything found on the 400 Sport distinguishes the 300 Sport, too, the latter model powered by the Ingenium straight-six diesel with - you've guessed it - 300hp and 479lb ft. Its important numbers are 6.4 seconds, 143mph, 38.2 and 194g/km. Jag says the new models "subtly accentuate the F-Pace's inherently assertive, purposeful design and deliver an even more confident on-road presence, while beautiful, rich materials - including meticulously-crafted veneers - make the interiors even more luxurious."

Both 300 and 400 Sport join a MY23 F-Pace range that's notable for Amazon Alexa being made standard fit across the range. Integrated as part of the Pivi Pro infotainment system means drivers can ask Alexa things in their Jaguar just as they might in their home. As a cloud service, it'll update over time to offer more functionality - already Jaguar says 55,000 customers with Pivi Pro-equipped F-Paces have downloaded Alexa. An app is on hand for the smart speaker to allow customers to check on their Jag when it's not in sight.

The new F-Pace range is on sale now, priced from £46,520 for the entry-level 163hp diesel. The new Sport models starts at £62,250 for the 300, with the 400 coming in at £68,520. The £60k Audi SQ5 TDI and BMW X3 M40d probably best rival the former, with the latter nestled between the top of the Macan range and the Cayenne S. Or if neither new F-Pace quite does sporty SUV emphatically enough, the (very good indeed) V8 SVR is still available...

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[Maccmike8]

Cracking design.

[smilo996]

yup, yup, marvelous, making coffee wagons even faster down the highstreet as their behatted occupants look out with glee.

Looks sharp though but not as sharp as the I Pace.

[Mercutio]

Maccmike8 said:

Cracking design.

Agreed with this - and amusingly I was going to say we'll get the 'coming to a school run near you' comments soon, and then the second post turns up...

Jaguar nailed this design-wise when it first came out, and these revisions look good. YES it is long in the tooth now, and yes this is a crowded segment with some dubious purpose (why does everything have to be 'Sport' when it comes to a 2 tonne SUV)

But...for what it is, and what it proposes to do, this is very good.

[Augustus Windsock]

37.3 and 28.2mpg for the diesel and petrol respectively seem to be Jaguars WLTP figures, not quite as suggested in the article?
Personally I quite like the look of these but I’m not in the market for one so my view is pretty irrelevant
What I would ask is are they any better than the JD Power surveys suggest historically?

[T1berious]

Is it me or is this F-Pace 400 slower and more expensive than it's nearest rivals? X3 M40i springs to mind.

I'm hoping those performance figures are really conservative.

Why no hybrid? Would have thought that would be an option to take on the competition (Q5 TFSI e etc?)

[Mercutio]

Augustus Windsock said:

37.3 and 28.2mpg for the diesel and petrol respectively seem to be Jaguars WLTP figures, not quite as suggested in the article?
Personally I quite like the look of these but I’m not in the market for one so my view is pretty irrelevant
What I would ask is are they any better than the JD Power surveys suggest historically?

A friend of mine has run a 2018 2 litre diesel model, an Ingenium engine. He's not suffered any problems so far, aside from needing a software update (so far, so JLR)

That's a subset of one, but I've also read other people talk about oil dilution issues and engine problems, so I don't know if it's all rosy out there.

[borat52]

When Jag get design right they really do come up with something special.

[Vee12V]

That's a good looking SUV.

[Roger Irrelevant]

T1berious said:

Is it me or is this F-Pace 400 slower and more expensive than it's nearest rivals? X3 M40i springs to mind.

That's what I thought - I've been looking at X3 40ds a lot recently and never mind the F-Pace 300, the BMW is quicker than the 400 too and not just by a sliver. So yes the Jag does look good (though they'll always come with a whiff of Jimmy Tarbuck in my mind), however I'll keep looking at X3s.

[craigjm]

Mercutio said:

Augustus Windsock said:

37.3 and 28.2mpg for the diesel and petrol respectively seem to be Jaguars WLTP figures, not quite as suggested in the article?
Personally I quite like the look of these but I’m not in the market for one so my view is pretty irrelevant
What I would ask is are they any better than the JD Power surveys suggest historically?

A friend of mine has run a 2018 2 litre diesel model, an Ingenium engine. He's not suffered any problems so far, aside from needing a software update (so far, so JLR)

That's a subset of one, but I've also read other people talk about oil dilution issues and engine problems, so I don't know if it's all rosy out there.

People go on car forums to find solutions for problems and moan about stuff when solutions are not quickly forthcoming. If we take that small subset of owners as the ownership proposition we wouldnt buy any cars at all. The problem with social media is that people read that stuff and then repeat it to others as if they have experienced it and they know about it. Im not saying they dont have their issues but if they were in the magnitude suggested by that small subset they would be drowning under class action lawsuits and the warranty budget would be eating every penny of profit and they would be heading for the exit.

[wowman]

Remember when the attribute "Sport" meant something like "quick", "agile" and was associated with increased g-force in all directions and reduced lap times?

Today, when I read about a car maker launching a "Sport" edition, I expect a standard car with some cosmetics thrown on, new colours (don't forget the yellow brake calipers!) and perhaps a sports towel in the boot for the utmost sports experience.

JRL didn't fail to meet my expectations.

Sigh.

[Mercutio]

wowman said:

Remember when the attribute "Sport" meant something like "quick", "agile" and was associated with increased g-force in all directions and reduced lap times?

Today, when I read about a car maker launching a "Sport" edition, I expect a standard car with some cosmetics thrown on, new colours (don't forget the yellow brake calipers!) and perhaps a sports towel in the boot for the utmost sports experience.

JRL didn't fail to meet my expectations.

Sigh.

I don't disagree - it's a ludicrous moniker which JLR coined itself with the Range Rover Sport in 2005, and which of course sold staggeringly well.

The term "sporty" these days just tends to mean "fast enough" and "styled".

Admittedly I think F-Pace deserves to carry the moniker because its a 6 cylinder that handles well for what it is.

But I completely agree with you, the term is almost rendered meaningless these days.

[Spiros115]

T1berious said:

Is it me or is this F-Pace 400 slower and more expensive than it's nearest rivals? X3 M40i springs to mind.

I'm hoping those performance figures are really conservative.

Why no hybrid? Would have thought that would be an option to take on the competition (Q5 TFSI e etc?)

There is a hybrid; the p400e and it already has 400hp! I do wonder if they might replace that 2l petrol with this 3l and get more like 500hp but is that too close to the SVR?

The old man has bought the p400e and it’s just stunning, interior is now far more RR-Esque but with a sporting focus, it’s so far ahead of the x3 now I don’t even really consider that competition

[craigjm]

Mercutio said:

wowman said:

Remember when the attribute "Sport" meant something like "quick", "agile" and was associated with increased g-force in all directions and reduced lap times?

Today, when I read about a car maker launching a "Sport" edition, I expect a standard car with some cosmetics thrown on, new colours (don't forget the yellow brake calipers!) and perhaps a sports towel in the boot for the utmost sports experience.

JRL didn't fail to meet my expectations.

Sigh.

I don't disagree - it's a ludicrous moniker which JLR coined itself with the Range Rover Sport in 2005, and which of course sold staggeringly well.

The term "sporty" these days just tends to mean "fast enough" and "styled".

Admittedly I think F-Pace deserves to carry the moniker because its a 6 cylinder that handles well for what it is.

But I completely agree with you, the term is almost rendered meaningless these days.

They didnt really coin it themselves. Manufacturers have been selling "sport" versions of their cars that are nothing of the sort for decades, certainly since the 80s.

[Ray_Aber]

I love the looks of this car. For an SUV, it's really attractive.

Picking up on the theme of "sport" though, why is the word "sport" associated with black? As soon as you add "sport" to a car's name, then in the words of Southpark's Cartman, "All I see is black". This is ridiculous. As far as I am aware, Ferraris are reasonably sporty, yet they don't get turned out with Henry Ford colour choices. Is a Dacia a "Sport" car then due to its unremittingly onyx-hued Stygian interior?

Great car. Crap black wheels. Crap black interior. GIve us options, JLR. Not everyone wants to drive a Goth palace.

[craigjm]

Yeah its time for the "black pack" stuff to go away and move on to something else.

[rjfp1962]

For someone who generally doesn't like many of the SUV's out there, this one is very nice. Great work Jaguar

[Speedgirl]

Whenever I see a car badged Sport I can’t help thinking of this, the majestic Frontera.
The Jag looks lovely but you can’t race it, track it, drive it across country and it comes without a tow-bar, roof-rack or bike rack. Maybe there’s a tiddly wink cup holder. Doesn’t seem very sporty to me.

[Augustus Windsock]

craigjm said:

Mercutio said:

Augustus Windsock said:

37.3 and 28.2mpg for the diesel and petrol respectively seem to be Jaguars WLTP figures, not quite as suggested in the article?
Personally I quite like the look of these but I’m not in the market for one so my view is pretty irrelevant
What I would ask is are they any better than the JD Power surveys suggest historically?

A friend of mine has run a 2018 2 litre diesel model, an Ingenium engine. He's not suffered any problems so far, aside from needing a software update (so far, so JLR)

That's a subset of one, but I've also read other people talk about oil dilution issues and engine problems, so I don't know if it's all rosy out there.

People go on car forums to find solutions for problems and moan about stuff when solutions are not quickly forthcoming. If we take that small subset of owners as the ownership proposition we wouldnt buy any cars at all. The problem with social media is that people read that stuff and then repeat it to others as if they have experienced it and they know about it. Im not saying they dont have their issues but if they were in the magnitude suggested by that small subset they would be drowning under class action lawsuits and the warranty budget would be eating every penny of profit and they would be heading for the exit.

I don’t disagree, although the point I was making was how they and Landrover do (or don’t) in the JD Power survey
I recently completed a survey about my Skoda Octavia estate, all good except the infotainment system, my expectations weren’t as high as if I’d bought one of these and so I’m actually very happy with the car
I really do fail to understand how JLR manage to turn out cars with issues that aren’t acceptable (and having had their products on Roads Policing they spent more time off-road than any other marque we had on our fleet)
I really want to love these but that fear of being let down would linger with me and I’m not sure I could overcome it

[craigjm]

Augustus Windsock said:

craigjm said:

Mercutio said:

Augustus Windsock said:

37.3 and 28.2mpg for the diesel and petrol respectively seem to be Jaguars WLTP figures, not quite as suggested in the article?
Personally I quite like the look of these but I’m not in the market for one so my view is pretty irrelevant
What I would ask is are they any better than the JD Power surveys suggest historically?

A friend of mine has run a 2018 2 litre diesel model, an Ingenium engine. He's not suffered any problems so far, aside from needing a software update (so far, so JLR)

That's a subset of one, but I've also read other people talk about oil dilution issues and engine problems, so I don't know if it's all rosy out there.

People go on car forums to find solutions for problems and moan about stuff when solutions are not quickly forthcoming. If we take that small subset of owners as the ownership proposition we wouldnt buy any cars at all. The problem with social media is that people read that stuff and then repeat it to others as if they have experienced it and they know about it. Im not saying they dont have their issues but if they were in the magnitude suggested by that small subset they would be drowning under class action lawsuits and the warranty budget would be eating every penny of profit and they would be heading for the exit.

I don’t disagree, although the point I was making was how they and Landrover do (or don’t) in the JD Power survey
I recently completed a survey about my Skoda Octavia estate, all good except the infotainment system, my expectations weren’t as high as if I’d bought one of these and so I’m actually very happy with the car
I really do fail to understand how JLR manage to turn out cars with issues that aren’t acceptable (and having had their products on Roads Policing they spent more time off-road than any other marque we had on our fleet)
I really want to love these but that fear of being let down would linger with me and I’m not sure I could overcome it

Agreed but if you look at the psychology around completing consumer surveys it is well documented that people fill them in if they are either absolutely delighted with their car or thoroughly annoyed with it and the latter will fill it in a lot more readily than the former. Its the same on internet forums etc how often do you see threads "I am delighted with my Octavia" for instance. The only real true source of data for reliability is the warranty claim data and they will never publish that.

If we really want perceived reliability to improve then it will take a brave manufacturer to publish their data and the rest will have to follow. Just like warranty periods increased after one of them took the brave step to make it three years.

I wonder if electrification will make cars generally more reliable or less as in theory there is "less to go wrong" the problem with warranty claim data would be that a claim for the stereo stopping working would be one claim and a catastrophic engine failure one claim so it would be hard to decipher the level of reliability based on what was actually key. Shame, maybe there should be some kind of assessment process and the manufacturers get a government backed score like the scores on the doors for food cleanliness.