hellishly complicated road car engines
hellishly complicated road car engines
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edo

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16,699 posts

285 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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This horrifies me (V10 BMW engine).

Where the hell would you start building something like this?!?

What else is as (or more) complicated?


kambites

70,289 posts

241 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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I think almost all modern engines come into this category, personally.

swamp

1,011 posts

209 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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I had a wardrobe from Ikea with more bits than that.

twazzock

1,930 posts

189 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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The LS9 looks quite confusing:

dougc

8,240 posts

285 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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That looks like the best airfix ever.

edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

285 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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swamp said:
I had a wardrobe from Ikea with more bits than that.
hehe - and bits left over I assume?!

DanielJames

7,543 posts

188 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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Where do I sign up? smile

Codswallop

5,256 posts

214 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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dougc said:
That looks like the best airfix ever.
Agreed. I reckon I could have a good stab at assembling that with all the parts so clean and well layed out.

kambites

70,289 posts

241 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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That LS9 actually looks remarkably simple to me. If you gave me one laid out in that way, I reckon I could have a damned good go and putting it together.

twazzock

1,930 posts

189 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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I love stuff like this. Half the stuff I find is BMW M engines though...

M3 V8


S54 is simple by comparison


X6M


Cosworth DFV


wankel


RR Kestrel V12


Mk2 Golf!

johnpeat

5,328 posts

285 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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You've chosen an V engine so it has 2 heads - add on those 10 cylinders and it's going to be WAY more complex-looking than a regular 4 or inline 6 - but otherwise I'm not really seeing the horror there!?

The engine is still, basically, the same concept. Block, Crank and Flywheel, Pistons, Heads with Cam Gear and then a tonne of bits and bobs which amount to air system, fuel system and the electronics to control it all...

The bit I find most fascinating about mechanics is the way they can strip-down a car - leave it for a couple of weeks (awaiting authorisation or parts or the owner to find the money) and then put it all back together. According to a mate of mine, modern cars are even easier to do this with thanks to using moulded parts, color-coded connectors, more uniform bolt/stud sizes etc. etc.

His description was "a jigsaw with a lot more edge pieces!" wink

The most terrifying thing I ever saw was a MINI2's door stripped to the bare bones tho - there were easily more parts than in that picture and it was far less 'obvious' which bits went where...

p.s. open-up a DSG-type gearbox and be really blown-away smile

twazzock

1,930 posts

189 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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Merc AMG 6.3


Superleague formula V12

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

176 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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None of them are particularly complicated...

They're just the regular parts but more of them. Find something that's actually innovative wink

twazzock

1,930 posts

189 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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GroundEffect said:
None of them are particularly complicated...

They're just the regular parts but more of them. Find something that's actually innovative wink
I'm posting what I can find rather than what's complicated, there's only so much out there. Give me a suggestion and I will look for it...

Mave

8,216 posts

235 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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It's not really that many bits though is it? I recon if you build a decent R/C car you've probably got a higher parts count!

kellys hero

544 posts

270 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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You can spot the Yank motor, it has 1 camshaft and push rods hehe

Rotary Madness

2,285 posts

206 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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I love the rotary engine, everyone thinks its some kind of black magic, but just look how simple it is.

Has to be what, about 4 major moving parts in it!

dougc

8,240 posts

285 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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twazzock said:
GroundEffect said:
None of them are particularly complicated...

They're just the regular parts but more of them. Find something that's actually innovative wink
I'm posting what I can find rather than what's complicated, there's only so much out there. Give me a suggestion and I will look for it...
BRM H16

eta scrub that - not a road car

Zod

35,295 posts

278 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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edo said:
This horrifies me (V10 BMW engine).

Where the hell would you start building something like this?!?

What else is as (or more) complicated?

Whenever I look at that (rather wonderful) photo, I'm troubled: I can only see the valves from one cylinder bank left and only the throttles from the right.

McSam

6,753 posts

195 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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I have to agree with the guys saying these aren't too bad. I stripped a Rover V8 down to a similar sort of level and I can tell you I had pretty much that many parts lying around - it's not that modern engines are especially bad in terms of parts counts, it's just that engines themselves are bloody complicated things!