RE: Ultimate two-car Lamborghini garage for sale
RE: Ultimate two-car Lamborghini garage for sale
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Ultimate two-car Lamborghini garage for sale

Think Lamborghini and Formula 1 don't mix? Remarkable V12-powered 'Camel Collection' begs to differ...


It’s all too easy to think everything was better in the old days. Because that was when we knew, cared, and worried a whole lot less, so everything was rosier. But while it is true that some things really have gotten better over the years, we can all agree that there’s one aspect of being a car nerd that’s got a whole lot worse: motorsport liveries are crap. 

When budgets were bigger and rules laxer, one or two sponsors could dominate and create simple, beautiful racing cars. Nowadays, when there needs to be an official beer, an official coffee, an official printer and an official sock (probably), racing cars resemble subways daubed in graffiti, everyone determined to leave their mark. Most of them are a right mess. And with pretty much every motorsport faster than ever, there’s less chance to see what you’re being marketed anyway. 

Look at this 1990 Formula 1 car as proof. Back when everyone smoked (or so it seems), of course it made sense for Camel to sponsor the Lotus F1 team. There is an assortment of suppliers also alongside the driver, but there’s no doubt who’s the main sponsor here. The blue graphics look as good against the Lotus yellow as they ever have. But it’s a whole lot more interesting than just a great livery. Because this is a Type 102, the only Lotus F1 car ever to be powered by a V12. A Lamborghini V12, no less. And, fresh from Polo Storico restoration, it’s being sold as a pair with the only RHD Countach QV ever painted in yellow. Which also gets the Camel camo. Usually, road cars with race car graphics tend to look a bit naff; it’ll come as no surprise to find that the Camel Countach may well be the exception. 

The Grand Prix car is Lotus Type 102 #2. It competed in 37 races during the early '90s, with drivers including Johnny Herbert, Derek Warwick and Martin Donnelly. It wasn’t actually tremendously good, with a best finish of eighth, but as a classic racer it offers up that iconic V12 sound and a manual gearbox. With turbos prior to this and V8s and V10s after, 102/2 offers a rare opportunity to experience a pretty magical F1 era without needing an entire pit crew in tow.

And it’s a movie star, having appeared with Brad Pitt in the recent F1 movie - just in case a Lamborghini-engined Lotus F1 car couldn’t be any cooler. Maintained and run by the selling dealer (who can also provide race support), it’s the kind of motorsport sale dreams are made of. 

Especially with a bloomin' Countach to go alongside. Imagine turning up to a historic F1 event, to race your Lotus Type 102, in a Countach 5000QV. Now, for someone, that could be a possibility (though it might be slightly harder work to drive a Countach than an old F1 car - just imagine the fuel bill.) This Countach is a 1985 example, with chassis FLA12848 delivered new to Cornwall. Giallo over Naturale is the original spec, and this QV featured in both Autocar (against a superbike, obvs) and Chris Bennet’s book, ‘Lamborghini Countach’. 

Having been in storage since the mid-'00s, it was bought by the dealer now selling it. They’ve recommissioned it mechanically, resprayed the wonderful yellow paint, and outfitted it with the Camel tribute. It’s all reversible for those who prefer factory spec, complete with original wheels, but surely those contemplating ownership of the so-called Camel Collection would be tempted to go all in. This is still a yellow Lamborghini Countach, of course, with the wing - it’s not going to go unnoticed, camels or not. 

Heaven knows what buying the pair will cost; these days a Countach on its own is half a million and upwards. A Lamborghini-engined F1 car, with actual competition provenance and a recent factory restoration, surely isn’t going to be any less. There could be a fun game in seeing which V12 costs more to keep on top of going forward. For Lamborghini lovers the world over, the Camel Collection is surely an unrepeatable chance, with a unique example of perhaps its most famous supercar on sale alongside a fascinating bit of its motorsport history. And a livery that’s always, always going to be brilliant.


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Familymad

Original Poster:

1,764 posts

238 months

Wooof

Fetchez la vache

5,864 posts

235 months

Lovely Countach, but *my* ultimate 2 car garage would have 2 cars I could actually regularly use, so I'm out.

86wasagoodyear

834 posts

117 months

These are real cars, right.. not dinky toys ?
Just checking...

Nurburgsingh

5,404 posts

259 months

this story should have been kept for 'wing Wednesday'

80sMatchbox

3,964 posts

197 months

I think the whole ethos of what a 2 car garage should be is lost in the above article. I;m still a fan of the 2 cars, even if calling the Lotus a Lambo because of it's drive train is another odd thing to do.biggrin

When I was a kid, I never imagined the Camel man driving either of these 2 cars, until now.

nismo48

6,087 posts

228 months

I always love a Toe Camel garage wink

Chubbyross

4,817 posts

106 months

nismo48 said:
I always love a Toe Camel garage wink
That took a bit of shoe-horning but have a clap

Sporky

10,032 posts

85 months

Fetchez la vache said:
Lovely Countach, but *my* ultimate 2 car garage would have 2 cars I could actually regularly use, so I'm out.
I was a bit relieved neither was an Urus. Then I felt bad for thinking ill of the Urus.

But Countach and LM002 for me.

Andrewph75

54 posts

172 months

Just need to add a Camel Trophy Range Rover or Discovery as tow car or everyday runaround and you're done

mattlacey

97 posts

222 months

Fark, they're both gorgeous.

carinaman

24,124 posts

193 months

Pistonheads article said:
Look at this 1990 Formula 1 car as proof. Back when everyone smoked (or so it seems), of course it made sense for Camel to sponsor the Lotus F1 team.
I heard something Radio 4 this morning about those Nicotine pouches people put in their mouths. It seems the Tobacco companies are behind those Nicotine pouches for the mouth brands are sponsoring F1.

Edited by carinaman on Tuesday 27th January 16:50

Sporky

10,032 posts

85 months

Are they doing that again? I thought they'd been banned after Skoal Bandits were shown to be hugely damaging to your teeth, gums, and jaw.

carinaman

24,124 posts

193 months

Sporky said:
Are they doing that again? I thought they'd been banned after Skoal Bandits were shown to be hugely damaging to your teeth, gums, and jaw.
I heard it on Radio 4 this morning, but it was early and I may not have been fully with it. I'll see if I can find it on iplayer and check.

My mistake, they're Nicotine pouches, not Tobacco.

Edited by carinaman on Tuesday 27th January 16:50

Sporky

10,032 posts

85 months

I wasn't accusing you of fibbing. Just amazed/disappointed. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that tobacco companies are still trying to kill people for money.

carinaman

24,124 posts

193 months

Sporky said:
I wasn't accusing you of fibbing. Just amazed/disappointed. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that tobacco companies are still trying to kill people for money.
It's cool, I didn't and don't mind your challenge. I checked and it's Nicotine pouches. Your query helped me check and found out I was mistaken.

It was on Inside Health I guess from about half way through:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002qj6w

Sporky

10,032 posts

85 months

Ah - to be fair you said nicotine pouches, not tobacco pouches, so I may have misinterpreted.

I'm still not sure anyone should put that in their mouth. Patches seem a much less bad idea.

BigR

433 posts

183 months

Back to the topic in-hand... If only I could afford them, then afford to use them as attended. Could you fit a towbar on the back of the Countach...and safely tow the F1 car? It might be expensive to find out I'd rather hazard...

carinaman

24,124 posts

193 months

Sporky said:
Ah - to be fair you said nicotine pouches, not tobacco pouches, so I may have misinterpreted.

I'm still not sure anyone should put that in their mouth. Patches seem a much less bad idea.
No, you didn't misinterpret, I edited my posts, corrected them after your challenge. I am not offended. It's cool, you corrected me.

carinaman

24,124 posts

193 months

That terrible crash Martin Donnelly had was in one of those F1 Lotus-Lamborghinis.

I didn't know that crash inspired the Brad Pitt F1 film.

I've a very good friend who lives in Norfolk just down the road from Lotus. His wife is from Northern Ireland. They were having some work done at their previous address in Norfolk not quite so near to Lotus and one of the chaps doing to work asked if my friend's wife was from Northern Ireland. He recognised the accent as the chap was Martin Donnelly's father in law.

Augustus Windsock

3,702 posts

176 months

Like 99% or more of the people on here, these are so far out of my financial capabilities that they are an irrelevance to a great extent
But FGS Pistonheads, why don’t you stop these rinsing dealers advertising cars at ‘POA’, give a price!
Having said all that I’m sure I could warrant space in my mythical Lottery-funded dream garage!