RE: New Porsche 975 RSE gets 816hp - but do we care?
RE: New Porsche 975 RSE gets 816hp - but do we care?
Monday 20th April

New Porsche 975 RSE gets 816hp - but do we care?

Once upon a time Formula E drivers changed cars mid-race; now they're set to do 208mph


Nothing makes 2014 seem so long ago like the evolution of Formula E. Back then, the cars were awkward-looking and the race structure even more so, with mandatory car changes required due to the limitations of battery technology. Which was frankly pretty lame, whatever the badge on the nose. Things have slowly but surely improved, however, both in terms of the cars and the spectacle (even if drastically fewer people seem to be watching compared with F1). For the 2026 season, the fourth generation of Formula E racers will compete, and they make those original machines look like Sinclair C5s. 

This is Porsche’s effort, the 975 RSE. Gone is the 99X Evo, which achieved four world championships, replaced by a new naming strategy and an entirely new car that will aim to replicate that success. It’s 9 like all the Porsche race cars, then ‘75’ to mark 75 years of Porsche Motorsport this year, ‘a success story that is set to be increasingly shaped by electric racing in the future.’ 

While the 51.25kWh battery (that can be charged at 600kW) is a spec unit in Formula E, the rest of the package - operating software, pulse inverter, electric motor, gearbox, differential, driveshafts, brake-by-wire - is developed in-house by the manufacturers. The sort of stuff that’s handy to then shout about in road cars following competition success. If indeed Cayenne Electric buyers care very much about Formula E, but that’s a separate discussion. The power is the big gain for these Gen 4 cars; at 816hp in Attack mode or 612hp normally, the 975 RSE is 71 per cent more powerful than a 99X, while only being 5kg heavier. A 0-62mph time of 1.8 seconds for the four-wheel-drive 975 isn’t even matched by a Taycan Turbo GT Weissach. A top speed of 335km/h, or 208mph, ought to make Formula E more engaging to watch on the fast circuits. Theoretically anyway.

Much like the launch of a new electric road car, the arrival of a new electric race car means a lot of talk about regen; for the RSE it’s reckoned that up to 700kW can be recuperated through slowing down, or around half of the drive energy per race. More efficient regen is another gain that would benefit road cars. As would weighing just 954kg (or even twice that). And if the 975 looks like a large Porsche, that’s because it is: 5,540mm long is actually a little bit more than the new F1 cars. Low- and high-downforce aero kits will be used. 

Speaking of Formula 1, remember that the Formula E season kicks off at a different time to Grand Prix racing, with winter events and a calendar that runs across one year to the next. Season 13 will start in December, for example, with the hardware of the 975 able to be worked on until October and testing already underway. Florian Modlinger, Porsche’s Formula E Director, said: “The concept remains the same: the regulations force us to maximise the efficiency of our cars in every respect – because that makes us relevant for the road. The races should become even more attractive, as the new cars are considerably faster. The acceleration is impressive, and we expect top speeds of up to 335 km/h. I’m very curious to see how the fans will react.” 

A little while to wait before we see these new Gen 4 cars in action, then, but potentially something to look forward to in the F1 off-season, particularly given the current difficulties around incorporating more electrification to that formula. Question is, will you (or anyone you know) be watching? 


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bigmowley

Original Poster:

2,583 posts

201 months

Monday 20th April
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Still sounds st though!

I 8 a 4RE

540 posts

266 months

Monday 20th April
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No.

M11rph

1,116 posts

46 months

Monday 20th April
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Sounds like this...


Less fun than this...

Sion111R

416 posts

117 months

Monday 20th April
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Formula E and F1 are converging. Will there be room, need or interest for both in a few years time?

josh00mac

424 posts

133 months

Monday 20th April
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Agreed they are converging and F1 has (somehow) created something that is befuddling to fans. I wonder how long it will be before FE is faster than F1? Will the world motorsport council allow that, example - why aren’t these FE cars on slicks?!

pacdes

763 posts

186 months

Monday 20th April
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I can see someone in the pit-crew being impaled.

brillomaster

1,767 posts

195 months

Monday 20th April
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Are they going to race on proper circuits? As thats a long car to get round some of the FE street chicanes and hairpins.

But I do like the sound of 800bhp. Well. The thought of 800bhp at least. The sound could be ear splitting.

MountainsofSussex

395 posts

211 months

Monday 20th April
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Sion111R said:
Formula E and F1 are converging. Will there be room, need or interest for both in a few years time?
To me, F1 has backed itself into a corner now, and in my mind at least highlights the negative aspects of hybrids rather than promoting them. You could easily imagine the next FE generation after this being faster than F1 if it's allowed to be. With so much less cooling and not exactly needing an engine air intake, the aero ought to be pretty good...

Frankychops

1,917 posts

34 months

Monday 20th April
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no one cares about formula E. maybe the 3 people that watch it.

ntiz

2,654 posts

161 months

Monday 20th April
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The biggest news from this is that Porsche has already won 4 titles. Who knew?

I have a Porsche you would think they would be promoting this success in their digital literature, news letters or in the showroom. Haven’t seen a thing.

Why bother if they don’t promote it. Admittedly I couldn’t given a toss but you would think they would using it to try shift some Taycans and Macans.

pheonix478

5,009 posts

63 months

Tuesday 21st April
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ntiz said:
The biggest news from this is that Porsche has already won 4 titles. Who knew?

I have a Porsche you would think they would be promoting this success in their digital literature, news letters or in the showroom. Haven t seen a thing.

Why bother if they don t promote it. Admittedly I couldn t given a toss but you would think they would using it to try shift some Taycans and Macans.
hehe I had no clue. And I've got 4... I did notice they don't appear to have a car in WEC Hypercar though which is really disappointing.

McRors

438 posts

81 months

Tuesday 21st April
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I think the lack of comments speaks volumes about the level of interest in Formula E.

TheDrownedApe

1,646 posts

81 months

Tuesday 21st April
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I used to watch it as the racing is exciting.

Now stuck behind a massive paywall so don't bother, ego don't care about the cars.


Puddenchucker

5,557 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st April
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TheDrownedApe said:
Now stuck behind a massive paywall so don't bother, ego don't care about the cars.
Some of the races are shown live (and free) on ITV4.

Superevey

10 posts

12 months

Tuesday 21st April
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I don't care what make the car is if it's electric i hate it,if it's auto i detest it.
I love petrol and a big growling engine that's a car, a drivers car.
Electric is OK for milk floats.

BricktopST205

2,345 posts

159 months

Tuesday 21st April
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MountainsofSussex said:
To me, F1 has backed itself into a corner now, and in my mind at least highlights the negative aspects of hybrids rather than promoting them. You could easily imagine the next FE generation after this being faster than F1 if it's allowed to be. With so much less cooling and not exactly needing an engine air intake, the aero ought to be pretty good...
How is this imaginary EV going to do 50 odd laps around spa?

MountainsofSussex

395 posts

211 months

Tuesday 21st April
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BricktopST205 said:
How is this imaginary EV going to do 50 odd laps around spa?
In 12 years, the cars have gone from 200kW to 600kW and the battery has virtually doubled, with top speeds increasing from 140mph to 208mph and the new car is similar pace to F2. On the current cars, there's already a 600kW charging pit stop, not seen what the Gen4 will have, but it's bound to be more and that'll clearly help in places like Spa. Obviously it's somewhere on the law of diminishing returns, but at something like that rate of improvement, Gen5 could easily be close enough in pace to an F1 car that it could provide as much of a challenge to the driver, without messing about with whether the energy is coming from the ICE or the battery or stupid super clipping

Gary29

5,061 posts

124 months

Tuesday 21st April
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I should care, the tech is amazing, but I don't.

I 8 a 4RE

540 posts

266 months

Tuesday 21st April
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pheonix478 said:
hehe I had no clue. And I've got 4... I did notice they don't appear to have a car in WEC Hypercar though which is really disappointing.
It is because Porsche built a car first and foremost for IMSA (North America) regulations; LMdH.

Whilst these cars are allowed to run in WEC Hypercar, they are at a disadvantage (shared parts, hybrid on the rear as opposed to front axle, etc) and not competitive.

WEC Hypercars are not allowed in IMSA to control costs.

Porsche (and Penske) prioritise racing (and winning!!) in the USA. (Although the only thing old man Penske is missing is an overall LM24 title.)

To put all this in context; watch the 2025 pole lap onboard with (I believe Estre) and see how much he is fighting that car vs the Ferrari; not sustainable over 24h but a great watch!!

Abridged and cut corners, but that s the rough story.

Edited by I 8 a 4RE on Tuesday 21st April 09:59

Its Just Adz

18,237 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st April
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Does Formula E get much of a viewing audience?

I've certainly never watched it, but then I don't watch F1 either.