Curious tax / MOT status
Curious tax / MOT status
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legless

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2,063 posts

171 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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For at least the last 3-4 years, there has been a motorhome parked up and slowly deteriorating on a street nearby me.

Curiousity got the better of me today and I checked its tax/MOT status:



It's a 1991 registration, so not old enough to be MOT exempt, but I can't for the life of me work out how they've managed to tax it if the MOT expired 2 1/2 years ago.

Anyone got any ideas?

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

50 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Is it on a monthly direct debit perhaps?

I doubt a MOT lapse triggers anything on a direct debit tax?

Scrump

23,947 posts

189 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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I don’t know for sure, but if a direct debit is set up for the tax whilst there is a valid MOT then would the tax just keep rolling on until the direct debit is cancelled (I.e, once direct debit is live then MOT status is no longer checked).

smokey mow

1,415 posts

231 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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is it over 3.5T? The MoT history doesn’t aways show for Class 7.

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

50 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Scrump said:
I don’t know for sure, but if a direct debit is set up for the tax whilst there is a valid MOT then would the tax just keep rolling on until the direct debit is cancelled (I.e, once direct debit is live then MOT status is no longer checked).
I don't know, but I wouldn't be at all surprised. It is the sort of loophole they wouldn't have thought of.

Nickp82

3,996 posts

124 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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The direct debit won’t automatically renew if there’s no MOT - I know this from recent experience with my parent’s car.

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

50 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Which maybe the case. But as well all know, VED doesn't transfer with a change of keeper - except when it does.

I bought a six month old car that had been taxed from new for 12 months. Oddly enough when I received the V5c, I checked the tax status because I obviously needed to tax it. No, apparently I still had six months valid VED. After six months I got the reminder to tax my car.

Make of that what you will.

OldGermanHeaps

5,181 posts

209 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Scrump said:
I don’t know for sure, but if a direct debit is set up for the tax whilst there is a valid MOT then would the tax just keep rolling on until the direct debit is cancelled (I.e, once direct debit is live then MOT status is no longer checked).
If you forget your mot is due they wont take the next months tax on direct debit and write to you. Guess how I found out?

legless

Original Poster:

2,063 posts

171 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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smokey mow said:
is it over 3.5T? The MoT history doesn’t aways show for Class 7.
That's a good shout. I don't think so though - it's clearly based on a Talbot Express chassis, and it only has a single axle at the rear.

Baldchap

9,637 posts

123 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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If it's in any way used for private hire the MOT system is different and doesn't work on the .gov.uk checker.

Griffith4ever

7,066 posts

66 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I accidentally let the MOT expire in Jan on one car, DDs kept rolling out with no issues. Got the MOT done in Oct!

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

50 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Baldchap said:
If it's in any way used for private hire the MOT system is different and doesn't work on the .gov.uk checker.
Eh? It does.

There is some tripe posted as fact on here. This is a mate's PH Ford Galaxy...


georgeyboy12345

4,664 posts

66 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Which maybe the case. But as well all know, VED doesn't transfer with a change of keeper - except when it does.

I bought a six month old car that had been taxed from new for 12 months. Oddly enough when I received the V5c, I checked the tax status because I obviously needed to tax it. No, apparently I still had six months valid VED. After six months I got the reminder to tax my car.

Make of that what you will.
This happened with me. I had 3 months tax on my last car purchased in 2021.

The Dictator

1,493 posts

171 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Which maybe the case. But as well all know, VED doesn't transfer with a change of keeper - except when it does.

I bought a six month old car that had been taxed from new for 12 months. Oddly enough when I received the V5c, I checked the tax status because I obviously needed to tax it. No, apparently I still had six months valid VED. After six months I got the reminder to tax my car.

Make of that what you will.
I have experienced similar. Last October I bought a very recently imported Mercedes Viano 3.5 V6 from a specialist importer. I fully expected to have to tax it as soon as I took ownership, the online system said it had tax, so I drove it home from the garage and expected it to update over the next few days/week, so kept an eye on it.

I didn't end up having to tax it myself until the initial 6 months was up. Unexpected bonus.

was8v

2,013 posts

226 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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The trader probably taxed it for you