ICE vs ICE
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sparkyhx

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4,200 posts

235 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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I jokingly said at work (automotive related workplace) that I have to think twice when people mention ICE and that it doesn't mean In-Car-Entertainment. Which to me it does and has done for 30 years. As far as I am concerned ICE only started being used widely recently in the context of NOT EV's.

I was kinda told in no uncertain terms that ICE has always meant Internal Combustion Engine and TBH I was rather taken aback by the veracity of the response.

What's other peoples experience, or maybe there are other acronyms that mean multiple things, but you have to think twice about when you here them.

Caddyshack

15,270 posts

237 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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ICE has been in car entertainment for 30 yrs for sure, you only need to look at an old max power.

ICE has changed since the boom of EV (last 10 years)

CABC

6,308 posts

132 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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Very much entertainment in the 80-90s before built-in entertainment. There were ICE shops on most height streets who migrated to car & mobile phones.

The days when all BMWs came with an empty slot ready to be filled.

911Spanker

3,789 posts

47 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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sparkyhx said:
I jokingly said at work (automotive related workplace) that I have to think twice when people mention ICE and that it doesn't mean In-Car-Entertainment. Which to me it does and has done for 30 years. As far as I am concerned ICE only started being used widely recently in the context of NOT EV's.

I was kinda told in no uncertain terms that ICE has always meant Internal Combustion Engine and TBH I was rather taken aback by the veracity of the response.

What's other peoples experience, or maybe there are other acronyms that mean multiple things, but you have to think twice about when you here them.
Someone who works in an automotive related workplace and doesn't know what ICE meant shouldn't be there..or should be fired of course smile

Torquey

1,961 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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Same as the OP. It's always meant in car entertainment to me, since the 90's.
Only in the last 2-3 have I known it as internal combustion engine and I still have to think twice when I see it.

Similarly when F1 started calling engines PU's (power units). grumpy

thegreenhell

24,337 posts

250 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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ICE has always been car stereos. It's only since Tesla became popular that its meaning has changed.

Scrump

23,947 posts

189 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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I’m also with the OP.
ICE meant in car entertainment until the recent rise of EVs.

NDNDNDND

2,546 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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It ought to be ICV for consistency...

GravelBen

16,540 posts

261 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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sparkyhx said:
...or maybe there are other acronyms that mean multiple things, but you have to think twice about when you here them.
IPA, depending on context can be India Pale Ale or Isopropyl Alcohol. One of those is better for drinking than the other!

I just googled and found out that IPA can also refer to the International Phonetic Alphabet.


Back to ICE, I also knew it as 'in car entertainment' well before EV cars became common and it started being commonly used for 'internal combustion engine'.

motco

17,658 posts

277 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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Millennials! There was a world before they were born! rolleyes

Higgs boson

1,105 posts

184 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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Agree with OP.

I was into ICE in the 80s, and Home Cinema in the 90s.

In '83, I bought and installed a top-of-the-range Blaupunkt quad-speaker stereo (with 80W amplifier) in an 850 mini!

The ICE cost over £550 at that time - likely near to a couple of grand today.

The mini was worth substantially less! biggrin

InitialDave

15,157 posts

150 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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I agree with the OP, ICE was always in car entertainment until relatively recently, though I'm not sure how commonly used/known it would have been unless you were into cars?

Whereas I think the now-current ICE vs EV is maybe more commonly understood by people who aren't car enthusiasts?

So perhaps that's why some people would only be aware of the one version.

thegreenhell

24,337 posts

250 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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There's even a Haynes manual for ICE


GCH

4,141 posts

233 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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OP, was this berk you were speaking to a millennial, or a gen Z? They often need reminding that life did exist before they did hehe

I learnt what ICE meant from max-power in something like 1994

motco

17,658 posts

277 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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There's an information disseminations system in the NHS and it's called ICE. In true a right-on, modern jargon centred spirit it doesn't stand for anything solid or logical but...

NHS said:
What does ICE stand for in hospitals?
Disclosure by patients of their ideas, concerns, and expectations about diagnosis and/or treatment, brought together in the ICE acronym, is a part of 'gathering information' within the communication framework and exemplifies a patient-centred approach.
rolleyes

Mr Tidy

31,793 posts

158 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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It always meant In Car Entertainment to me as well. I remember being thrilled when I bought a Sharp radio/cassette in the early 80s with APSS so you could skip a track!

In my work career HVAC always referred to Heating Ventilation and Air Conditioning, but now in BMW world it seems it means Hydraulic Valve Actuator Control of something like that. I grew up calling the latter hydraulic tappets. rolleyes

Jader1973

5,214 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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I’ve worked in the auto industry since the late 90s. It has always meant In Car Entertainment to me.

The industry only started using ICE to mean Internal Combustion Engine when EVs appeared - there was no need for it before then because everything was an ICE vehicle.

The industry doesn’t use “EV” anyway, various terms are used (HEV, PHEV, BEV) to distinguish between the various different EV types.

motco

17,658 posts

277 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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My son had an Audi TT some ten or so years ago, and it had a button on the dash labelled "ESP". You didn't need to ask what it meant, just pressed it and you'll knew instantly!

CanAm

14,121 posts

303 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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motco said:
Millennials! There was a world before they were born! rolleyes
Indeed. Before the late 60s the word in use was "radio".
The internal combustion engine predated car stereo by about 70 years.


(Yes I know there were a few abortive attempts at car phonographs)

motco

17,658 posts

277 months

Thursday 25th January 2024
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CanAm said:
motco said:
Millennials! There was a world before they were born! rolleyes
Indeed. Before the late 60s the word in use was "radio".
The internal combustion engine predated car stereo by about 70 years.


(Yes I know there were a few abortive attempts at car phonographs)
My late and lamented father would never even consider having a 'wireless' in his car! tongue out