RE: McLaren confirms new 820hp supercar for 2027
RE: McLaren confirms new 820hp supercar for 2027
Friday 30th October

McLaren confirms new 820hp supercar for 2027

Having left an Easter egg on a literal bird, McLaren officially announces McL 820


As you might have heard, McLaren revealed a statue of a giant Kiwi in Covent Garden this week. Usually this sort of softball marketing campaign, aimed at catching the attention of big-city dwellers, is about as interesting as a mid-roll YouTube advert. But some passersby were sufficiently bored by the street entertainers to notice that the liveried-up bird came with a name on the side: McL 820. 

Cue a predictable (and targeted, obviously) amount of internet discussion on what exactly that might mean; 24 hours later, came the official confirmation. ‘McLaren today announces McL 820, the next McLaren series supercar, coming in 2027.’ And though it does not specifically mention the outgoing 750S - the model it retired at the start of the month - clearly the newcomer will be the replacement for the firm’s long-running and highly regarded flagship. 

As you might expect, the appearance of the new name on the side of a flightless bird is not incidental; next-generation McLaren has been very forthright about its intention to make better use of its heritage, and the Kiwi - a favoured emblem of Bruce McLaren - obviously signifies that continuing effort. It also reflects the manufacturer’s new naming structure, which kicked off with the McL 6GT that it revealed at Pebble Beach in the summer. 

Since then, McLaren has busied itself with the headline-making statements about its bold plans for expansion, not least in terms of buildings and additional staff, but also in its endorsement of the elephant in the room: a future, in-house-developed SUV. It has less to say about the supercar that will precede its arrival, except to confirm that the 820 name does indeed refer to the car’s output in PS.

How it will arrive at that number is for now an open question, although given McLaren’s previous acknowledgments about where its engine technology is headed, it is safe to assume that the new V8 it plans to self-build will make its debut in the McL 820. The expectation is that the new unit will be lightly hybridised, and built to compete with top-flight options currently offered by its nearest rivals. While it offers a healthy increase over the 750S, the number is also conservative enough to allow for plenty of headroom when it comes to limited edition variants. 

Whatever the precise nature of the powertrain, expect it to be mounted in the middle of the McL 820, and for the supercar to make continued use of architectural carbon fibre - a construction method McLaren understands as well as anyone. The SUV will be built on a front-engined platform still on the drawing board, making its core model the most prominent carrier of the firm’s established DNA. And with production of the Artura and GT winding down next year, McLaren will need a formidable mid-engined poster child more than ever. Further details are promised in due course. 


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Orangutangerine

Original Poster:

864 posts

211 months

Friday 30th October
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If its styling fuses a little 6GT with a little 720S, I can't see it going far wrong.

Building an SUV is a sad but perhaps necessary evil. Performance manufacturers should really look at a different set of priorities to luxury marques. A McLaren, Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, or even Bentley SUV should be something that could conceivably win a race. Make the body low and wide, and if it has to be jacked up, make it jacked up for sand dunes and mud pits, not Kensington kerbs and speedbumps. Most importantly, make it weigh less! Else there's no S about it, it's just a big fat squishy UV.

ManyMotors

1,118 posts

129 months

Friday 30th October
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Whatever technical brilliance McLaren may offer, it is becoming an also-ran. And the likely coming economic environment will not be kind to the brand. Plus, the UAE needs money for reconstruction, not shaky investments.

PCaluta

74 posts

2 months

Friday 30th October
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Orangutangerine said:
If its styling fuses a little 6GT with a little 720S, I can't see it going far wrong.

Building an SUV is a sad but perhaps necessary evil. Performance manufacturers should really look at a different set of priorities to luxury marques. A McLaren, Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, or even Bentley SUV should be something that could conceivably win a race. Make the body low and wide, and if it has to be jacked up, make it jacked up for sand dunes and mud pits, not Kensington kerbs and speedbumps. Most importantly, make it weigh less! Else there's no S about it, it's just a big fat squishy UV.
Given McLaren's precarious current position, what you've suggested would not be a good idea financially, at all. Why would they go to the trouble and great expense of making a car just to satisfy what you'd like but with such a limited market that no-one would buy vs one that those who drive over Kensington kerbs and speed bumps be potentially interested in purchasing?

The Cayenne is a "big fat squishy" SUV yet without it, there'd likely be no Porsche. Same for Lotus with their Lifestyle vehicles.

woops

79 posts

221 months

Friday 30th October
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There are those that say all publicity is good publicity, but I find the use of this "stunt" to be highly questionable. Were the dumpy, flightless kiwi already strongly associated with McLaren, it might make sense, but literally no one sees as a distinctive asset for the brand, certainly not the average shopper in Covent Garden. It does seem that automotive brands are increasingly bewitched by the idea that people find literally anything they do in a teaser campaign to be both fascinating and translatable into people becoming brand advocates, even if it is utter BS. Though I doubt they will face the backlash Jaguar had to deal with after their "Copy Nothing" brand film, this is no better as a way to reinvigorate the brand.

user123987

58 posts

12 months

Friday 30th October
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woops said:
There are those that say all publicity is good publicity, but I find the use of this "stunt" to be highly questionable. Were the dumpy, flightless kiwi already strongly associated with McLaren, it might make sense, but literally no one sees as a distinctive asset for the brand, certainly not the average shopper in Covent Garden. It does seem that automotive brands are increasingly bewitched by the idea that people find literally anything they do in a teaser campaign to be both fascinating and translatable into people becoming brand advocates, even if it is utter BS. Though I doubt they will face the backlash Jaguar had to deal with after their "Copy Nothing" brand film, this is no better as a way to reinvigorate the brand.
What about the fact that kiwi birds are endearingly cute

spikyone

1,917 posts

131 months

Friday 30th October
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woops said:
There are those that say all publicity is good publicity, but I find the use of this "stunt" to be highly questionable. Were the dumpy, flightless kiwi already strongly associated with McLaren, it might make sense, but literally no one sees as a distinctive asset for the brand, certainly not the average shopper in Covent Garden. It does seem that automotive brands are increasingly bewitched by the idea that people find literally anything they do in a teaser campaign to be both fascinating and translatable into people becoming brand advocates, even if it is utter BS. Though I doubt they will face the backlash Jaguar had to deal with after their "Copy Nothing" brand film, this is no better as a way to reinvigorate the brand.
It was part of their original logo back in the 1960s - it couldn't be any more a part of their brand. The fact that some people don't know about their history is largely irrelevant, and it's in no way comparable to what Jaguar have done. McLaren are using their heritage, Jaguar have abandoned theirs.

It's fine not to know about something, but so many posters seem to use their own ignorance of McLaren as a stick to beat them with, usually within the first half a dozen posts on a story about them. At least this gets points for originality, but still...

Mr.Grooler

1,241 posts

256 months

Friday 30th October
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Orangutangerine said:
Else there's no S about it, it's just a big fat squishy UV.
Traditionally the S means it’s for doing sporting things, not being sporty itself - like going skiing or towing your boat. Plenty of SUVs are increasingly sporty themselves of course, but all the soft squishy ones are still SUVs.

nismo48

7,221 posts

238 months

Friday 30th October
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McLaren deserves some praise for their continued development and innovation.
Let's hope this new model can build on this.

flight147z

1,388 posts

160 months

Friday 30th October
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A little underpowered for 2026

Mr Tidy

31,794 posts

158 months

Friday 30th October
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McLarens all look much the same to me.

If I had silly money to spend I'd have moved a few miles from Woking to Windlesham and bought a GMA complete with an N/A engine and manual gearbox.

Big_Steve

63 posts

81 months

Saturday 31st October
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So long as it doesn’t look like the 6 gt, I’ll be happy.

Wab1974uk

1,422 posts

58 months

Saturday 31st October
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They need to just make that 6GT. Look fantastic.

SUV, 6GT, Front engined GT car, and then a new 820 supercar.

I think that would be a far more appealing line-up rather than what came before.

JoshSm

5,383 posts

68 months

Saturday 31st October
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spikyone said:
It was part of their original logo back in the 1960s - it couldn't be any more a part of their brand. The fact that some people don't know about their history is largely irrelevant.
If no-one knows or cares about it, can't recognise it, and the only justification is that it was in the logo nearly 50 years ago, then it's crap branding.

The majority might have some knowledge of McLaren from 1980 onwards, but few would recognise what brand the Speedy Kiwi was for and even fewer would tie it back to the bird.

They've gone mining into heritage that's recognisable to very few, possibly because heritage is one retreat for a marketing team out of ideas.

You can argue the Papaya has exactly the same heritage but that works because it's a bright recognisable colour (just like it always did), less so because anyone really remembers the link to Bruce.

Glitzy Mitzy

1,539 posts

59 months

Saturday 31st October
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JoshSm said:
spikyone said:
It was part of their original logo back in the 1960s - it couldn't be any more a part of their brand. The fact that some people don't know about their history is largely irrelevant.
If no-one knows or cares about it, can't recognise it, and the only justification is that it was in the logo nearly 50 years ago, then it's crap branding.

The majority might have some knowledge of McLaren from 1980 onwards, but few would recognise what brand the Speedy Kiwi was for and even fewer would tie it back to the bird.

They've gone mining into heritage that's recognisable to very few, possibly because heritage is one retreat for a marketing team out of ideas.

You can argue the Papaya has exactly the same heritage but that works because it's a bright recognisable colour (just like it always did), less so because anyone really remembers the link to Bruce.
I agree! They could, at least, have done something to definitely tie the sculpture to the McLaren brand, such as writing the word 'McLaren' on it somewhere in big letters -- the plinth, say?

AMRicardo

160 posts

32 months

Saturday 31st October
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flight147z said:
A little underpowered for 2026
Unlikely to be two tons

Wills2

29,832 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st October
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Given that the 6GT is going to be a £1m+ collectors piece and is a departure in styling (a welcome one to these eyes) I wonder if the 820 will also be a departure or just another variation on the 720/750 theme.


HighwayStar

4,880 posts

175 months

Saturday 31st October
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AMRicardo said:
flight147z said:
A little underpowered for 2026
Unlikely to be two tons
Exactly… an 820 with associated hybrid baggage will undoubtedly a meaningful amount lighter than its rivals.
Not everyone buys simply by Top Trump numbers.

Ray_Aber

978 posts

307 months

Saturday 31st October
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woops said:
There are those that say all publicity is good publicity, but I find the use of this "stunt" to be highly questionable. Were the dumpy, flightless kiwi already strongly associated with McLaren, it might make sense, but literally no one sees as a distinctive asset for the brand, certainly not the average shopper in Covent Garden. It does seem that automotive brands are increasingly bewitched by the idea that people find literally anything they do in a teaser campaign to be both fascinating and translatable into people becoming brand advocates, even if it is utter BS. Though I doubt they will face the backlash Jaguar had to deal with after their "Copy Nothing" brand film, this is no better as a way to reinvigorate the brand.
"Literally", you say (twice)? Would that instead be "figuratively", by any chance?

shoestring7

6,196 posts

277 months

Sunday 1st November
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My money is on it being an Artura MkII.

spikyone

1,917 posts

131 months

Sunday 1st November
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shoestring7 said:
My money is on it being an Artura MkII.
It would be very odd to give an Artura replacement a name that seems to follow on from the 750S and its predecessors. And why would they replace a car that's still being built, rather than the one that's just gone off-sale?