RE: New BMW Alpina takes to Nardo at 186mph
RE: New BMW Alpina takes to Nardo at 186mph
Tuesday 3rd November

BMW Alpina 7 Series previews lustier V8

We'll see the first of the new Alpina generation next year - here's your first look 


Anybody concerned about the future of Alpina under BMW’s tutelage can hopefully rest easy with the release of these testing photos. While whatever’s coming isn’t as sexy as the Vision Alpina Concept - in fairness, they did say it never would be - the new model does tick a few boxes to please the aficionados. It’s a four-door saloon, for one thing, rather than an enormous SUV; it sits on a spectacular set of Alpina 20-spoke light alloy wheels, with bespoke tyres; there’s a V8 under the bonnet, with 186mph potential. And it's green - gloriously green. The more things change, the more they stay the same… 

Alright, so it’s a 7 Series rather than anything more affordable (and parkable), but then Alpina has created cars built from the 7 before, so it does have some heritage on its side. There isn’t a confirmation of name, price, power, weight or anything like that for the moment, but what is being shared for the moment is encouraging. As well as the performance potential of the V8, BMW is promising ‘masterful’ power delivery with a ‘rich, deep’ sound from the four oval tailpipes that are instantly recognisable as an Alpina hallmark. Certainly the car in the clip sounds a lot more exciting than any 7 Series has for a while.

The gearbox has been revised to handle more power than standard (we’ll assume standard refers to the 530hp/553lb ft found in 60i-grade M Performance BMWs with the V8), the throttle calibration altered for maximum smoothness, and - you’ll like this - ‘the utmost emphasis on the harmonious interaction of all components’. Alpinas were always renowned for their seamless, cohesive driving feel, so it’s good to know BMW is continuing that tradition. 

There’s plenty more good stuff coming, including a foam layer in the tyres, a ‘dynamic yet comfortable’ suspension set-up and an aero-optimised body. Whatever this 7 Series becomes it’s going to excel at high speed: see the video for how calm and composed 186mph looks. This is the ‘Speed, not Sport’ mantra the new Alpina has espoused, brought to life.

As BMW-Alpina VP Oliver Viellechner puts it: “Speed has always been baked into the Alpina brand’s DNA. However, we are not just interested in top speed alone. What matters is how natural, stable and confident it feels to drive at that speed.”

Add all that to the usual level of Alpina lavishness, and the 7 Series could be something pretty special. Which of us, after all, wouldn’t want a ‘vehicle for connoisseurs who appreciate the exceptional’? Expect to find out more early in 2027. In the meantime, for a taste of V8 Alpina opulence at less than the new era will cost, don’t forget there was a B8 based on the 8 Series Gran Coupe - this 2025 car is M5 money, and 10 times cooler… 


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CatScan

Original Poster:

215 posts

180 months

Tuesday
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So for all the lovely concepts, BMWs first step for Alpina ownership is "more of the same"?

I'm not complaining, provided they stick to 3 and 5 series based cars too. If it just ends up being BMW's Maybach trim equivalent on 7ers and X7s, it'll be a bit disappointing.

plfrench

5,002 posts

299 months

Tuesday
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CatScan said:
So for all the lovely concepts, BMWs first step for Alpina ownership is "more of the same"?

I'm not complaining, provided they stick to 3 and 5 series based cars too. If it just ends up being BMW's Maybach trim equivalent on 7ers and X7s, it'll be a bit disappointing.
I suspect the sums won t add up for 3 and 5 series based cars. This will likely be entry level for Alpina given the emissions regs in Europe. It won t be worth wasting their precious allocation of engines / fleet average CO2 on anything less than this sort of price point. We re seeing it with AMG too. No point putting a V8 in a C class and limiting themselves to £120k when they could stick it in a GT of some sort and charge £200k upwards for the same effect on their fleet average emissions.

richinlondon

901 posts

153 months

Tuesday
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think i'd leave the camouflage on to hide that hideous front

Terminator X

20,927 posts

235 months

Tuesday
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A foam layer in the tyres? I had that on my 2015 RS3.

TX.

m62tu

148 posts

70 months

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Advertising 186+ mph is nothing special when you consider the B12 6.0(E38 based) in 1999 did 181mph.

nismo48

7,221 posts

238 months

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richinlondon said:
think i'd leave the camouflage on to hide that hideous front
hehe

epom

15,053 posts

192 months

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Saw a new 7 series on the road today, didn’t realise they were gone so flippin huuuuge !!

can't remember

1,175 posts

159 months

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If ever there is a car where the custom interior is a million times more important than the camo exterior this is it.

Jurdy

315 posts

315 months

Tuesday
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Rest easy they say....sadly they will just become ugly rebadged exec barges...at a £175k plus price point.

McGee_22

8,160 posts

210 months

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Jurdy said:
Rest easy they say....sadly they will just become ugly rebadged exec barges...at a £175k plus price point.
Relatively cheap then compared to previous 7 Series Alpina cars.

GTEYE

2,508 posts

241 months

Wednesday
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Bovensiepen versus BMW ALPINA

Question - which one is actually the real ALPINA?

Time will tell, but I think BMW could have had their trousers pulled down.


Kawasicki

14,407 posts

266 months

Wednesday
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I’m confused. Alpina could supposedly tune suspension better than BMW could. Now BMW are tuning it themselves… if they actually know what to do, why didn’t they do it on standard BMWs for decades?

SpadeBrigade

867 posts

170 months

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Kawasicki said:
I m confused. Alpina could supposedly tune suspension better than BMW could. Now BMW are tuning it themselves if they actually know what to do, why didn t they do it on standard BMWs for decades?
Because they are all designed with different priorities in mind. The current 7 for example rides incredibly well. The only difference with Alpina was the combination of shocks and spring rates, there wasn’t any magic sauce going on that BMW couldn’t manage themselves.

The purpose of buying Alpina is that it means they can position cars outside of the M lineup, at a higher price point with more exclusivity.

Gary29

5,275 posts

130 months

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epom said:
Saw a new 7 series on the road today, didn t realise they were gone so flippin huuuuge !!
I pass one on my commute most days, they're huge, and absolutely hideous looking.

swisstoni

24,187 posts

310 months

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So I click on the post, keen to see what this new Alpina looks like and bam! A breeze block.

Kawasicki

14,407 posts

266 months

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SpadeBrigade said:
Kawasicki said:
I m confused. Alpina could supposedly tune suspension better than BMW could. Now BMW are tuning it themselves if they actually know what to do, why didn t they do it on standard BMWs for decades?
Because they are all designed with different priorities in mind. The current 7 for example rides incredibly well. The only difference with Alpina was the combination of shocks and spring rates, there wasn t any magic sauce going on that BMW couldn t manage themselves.

The purpose of buying Alpina is that it means they can position cars outside of the M lineup, at a higher price point with more exclusivity.
So a standard 7 series is a comfort tune, and the Alpina version is more sporty, but not quite M?