PH and Motability
PH and Motability
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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So I see another Motability thread went so far off course that it had to be locked again

Could PH not do a news piece about the scheme, educate people as to how it is funded, how it isn't neccesarily a massive scam on our precious taxes etc

It seems there are a number of people on here who have need or use the scheme and it would be good if people could actually be educated, you could even get 'your man Harris' to get a motability car sideways, or something

Just a thought, if it was a proper PH article some of the lesser educated may actually read it before jumping in with both size 12's

BorkFactor

7,278 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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I think this is a very good idea - in the past week or so there have been at least 2 threads derailed by people that clearly don't know anything about the scheme.

This is a car website, and there are members who will need advice about what car would be suitable for their needs. I think a bit of simple education would improve the quality of these threads and stop the same "issues" being dragged up time and time again smile

McHaggis

59,374 posts

184 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Agreed.

How about an article written by some disabled PH'ers?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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McHaggis said:
Agreed.

How about an article written by some disabled PH'ers?
Absolutely I think it would be great and could perhaps show the other side of the coin

McHaggis

59,374 posts

184 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Mods - could you flag this thread to Mr Garlick please...?

(and leave it open for a little while...)

Thanks

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Not sure it's a feature we'd run, not just about Motability at least.

Disabled drivers who want to write a carpool would be great, any disabled drivers with a story to tell are also welcome...very welcome smile

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Sounds like an ideal Carpool piece.

stuartmmcfc

8,775 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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I'm not sure what a "car pool" piece is. Can someone point me in the right direction please?

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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stuartmmcfc

8,775 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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ewenm said:
ofcourse!! feel a bit stupid now laugh

NoNeed

15,137 posts

229 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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anonymous said:
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For the lesser educated amonst us what would both sides of this coin look like?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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NoNeed said:
For the lesser educated amonst us what would both sides of this coin look like?
I don't know, but apparently we need disabled people to tell us about it.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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confused

Maybe I am being thick but PH seems very partisan when it comes to this subject, I thought a feature on someone who uses this scheme and what it means to them how it improves their life and how it works my allow a more balanced view and educate some of the 'They are all spongers wasting our taxes brigade'

Did I use the wrong phrase?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Not at all. It just seems odd that certain facts have to be given by a disabled person. To be honest, anyone who is ignorant of the facts in the thread and chooses not to take in facts given by people in there, are not likely to take them in in an article, but that's just my opinion.

Lunablack

3,494 posts

191 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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McHaggis said:
Agreed.

How about an article written by some disabled PH'ers?
As a disabled driver, who's been in receipt of mobility allowance for over 30 years, and has in the past contributed to such threads, (I can no longer be arsed)

I've come to the conclusion, that there is an element that don't want to understand, can not be made to understand, love showing their riteous indignation, and are therefor impossible to educate...
And for that reason alone... fk em.... Let them think what they want to think, you'll never change them so why waste time on it...??

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Not at all. It just seems odd that certain facts have to be given by a disabled person. To be honest, anyone who is ignorant of the facts in the thread and chooses not to take in facts given by people in there, are not likely to take them in in an article, but that's just my opinion.
Agreed and my original thought was a PH article but as they wouldn't be interested in doing one I thought the carpool idea was a good second best

I know it shouldn't need to be done but surely anything that can educate by whatever means is better than not trying

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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anonymous said:
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I agree... The article should be done for its own sake. Those who are too ignorant to take in facts in the first place are probably beyond helping.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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TheHeretic said:
anonymous said:
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I agree... The article should be done for its own sake. Those who are too ignorant to take in facts in the first place are probably beyond helping.
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Lunablack

3,494 posts

191 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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I've never actually opted for a motobility car.... But if ever the time comes... THE LAST PLACE ON EARTH I'd ask for advice would be PH...

NoNeed

15,137 posts

229 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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anonymous said:
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Your phrase indicated there are two sides to the coin, I agree there is.





People don't have objections to the scheme well not me anyway as my immediate family have had the benefit of it. I see it as finacial help for what are sometimes to the able bodied simple tasks.

But I was wondering about your coin as on one side it would have a deserving good cause being helped by the wider society in what for most people is a simple task with everything rosie and bright.

But what about the other side? what would be on there?

Maybe a multi millionaire with a jaguar on the drive parked next to the motability mini provided for the mother with artheritus that his son drives (well he has fetched milk for his disabled mother)once or twice

This is where the objection are. because quite clearly people are claiming from the system money that they do not need which prevent others from getting help they do need.

I was alarmed and somewhat suprised to hear that although a tragic story our prime minister david cameron claimed DLA, he did this despite his allready large wealth. Yes I understand that it was for the child (very sad indeed) but who could have been helped with that money, money the camerons could have lived without. I say this with the knowledge I would NOT have changed places with him for all the tea in china it must have been terrible, but I cannot for the life of me see how £50 a week would have had any impact at all it was just £50 a week that could have made a big difference to somebody else.

I am not jealous of wealth I just don't believe those that have it need state assistance.


Is that what you describe as thick? Or was it the other posters that say we should only provide fuction not fashion?

ETA should I have added a disclaimer like thisbiggrin
  • ****Disclaimer************* this post is not intended to offend, upset or cause any distress to it's readers. It is just a conversation where peoples views are shared.

Also You advocate PH educating us but the threads are always closed how can we better understand if the discussion isn't allowed to happen?



Edited by NoNeed on Wednesday 4th April 20:02