403 FORBIDDEN ERROR previewing WIKI

[The Three D Mucketeer]

Trying to update WIKI

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Getting error trying to preview and update grey'ed out

It was OK when I last updated it in January 2026 , so something has changed recently

I've been maintaining this WIKI for nearly 20 years and now it goes wrong

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Saturday 2nd May 10:15

[zarjaz1991]

There'll be a word in the update that it doesn't like. This happens a lot on PH. Over zealous security software.

[The Three D Mucketeer]

zarjaz1991 said:

There'll be a word in the update that it doesn't like. This happens a lot on PH. Over zealous security software.

I guess more likely the pipes || ... but there's hundreds of them

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Saturday 2nd May 17:20

[Big Al.]

Hi Keith, it's not only you! just tried to update the wiki and I also get the 403 error page.
I'll report this thread and, I don't expect anything will happen over the weekend, I'll keep tabs on it and try to ensure it gets addressed ASAP.

[The Three D Mucketeer]

Thank you very much Al .... I knew you were the man to get it sorted

[Teppic]

zarjaz1991 said:

There'll be a word in the update that it doesn't like. This happens a lot on PH. Over zealous security software.

When I tried to update the Miami GP start times in my F1 Entry List and Calendar Wiki I received the same error, and that was just trying to adjust two numbers. So I doubt it's a word causing the issue.

Edit: Fixed after reading this post in the 403Forbidden sticky at the op of the page:

Jasey_ said:

For wiki pages this can be an issue that will be forbidden.

having the bracket right up to the pipe is the issue - other characters may knacker it too

I had the Sprint races denoted by an (S) next to the round number, with the closing bracket against the pipe. I have just put a space between the bracket and the pipe and that has resolved the issue. However, it is a workaround as I have never encountered this issue beofre on previous edits.

Edited by Teppic on Sunday 10th May 13:15

[zarjaz1991]

Teppic said:

When I tried to update the Miami GP start times in my F1 Entry List and Calendar Wiki I received the same error, and that was just trying to adjust two numbers. So I doubt it's a word causing the issue.

Could be the pipes as mentioned above.

When you edit and submit, the security software will scan the entire page / post. So even stuff that was already there could trip it up if the rules have changed. A 403 error is basically "forbidden" so something on there is likely tripping it up. Most likely they'll need to adjust the rules the system is using - either that or it's completely borked, but then I'd expect every post submission to fail.

I don't know what security software they're using so my answers are very generic but the basic principle will apply.

[Teppic]

zarjaz1991 said:

Teppic said:

When I tried to update the Miami GP start times in my F1 Entry List and Calendar Wiki I received the same error, and that was just trying to adjust two numbers. So I doubt it's a word causing the issue.

Could be the pipes as mentioned above.

When you edit and submit, the security software will scan the entire page / post. So even stuff that was already there could trip it up if the rules have changed. A 403 error is basically "forbidden" so something on there is likely tripping it up. Most likely they'll need to adjust the rules the system is using - either that or it's completely borked, but then I'd expect every post submission to fail.

I don't know what security software they're using so my answers are very generic but the basic principle will apply.

You beat me to it lol. I went back and added a space and everything is groovy, but I'd never encountered this issue before on previous edits earlier in the year.

[The Three D Mucketeer]

As I said earlier , the pipes were my suspect ... But I've got hundreds of them in my WIKI .... I'm already blowing the size limit on a WIKI and some of the WIKI is already missing because of the size ... Adding additional spaces will just increase the size of the WIKI an exacerbate the size problem . This problem has only occurred in the last few months , so somebody has changed something ,

[tirolo_ph]

unfortunately I can't provide much details on this but it's basically a black box we buy as a service as an extra security layer to help protect our old beloved forums... ideally they would review false positives like this and after some time their system would automatically adjust to correctly process it. I will see if there are any buttons I can push on this side to help with this.

In the meantime do you want to PM me the updated wiki code so I can try to update it directly on the backend?

[The Three D Mucketeer]

tirolo_ph said:

unfortunately I can't provide much details on this but it's basically a black box we buy as a service as an extra security layer to help protect our old beloved forums... ideally they would review false positives like this and after some time their system would automatically adjust to correctly process it. I will see if there are any buttons I can push on this side to help with this.

In the meantime do you want to PM me the updated wiki code so I can try to update it directly on the backend?

I can't PM you because you haven't got an email address on your profile !!!!

The WIKI code is visible to anyone if you go into the WIKI and select UPDATE ... as with any WIKI (the try PREVIEW)

Here are THREE WIKIs on the TUSCAN FORUM affected are these .... but I should imagine ALL WIKIs with formatting are experiencing the same difficulty

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I would suggest you contact your s/w supplier and tell them they've cocked up !!!!

It does seem to be pipes followed by [ ( ||[ needs to be || [ ) looking at other WIKIs ... and probably all types of brackets following || .

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Monday 11th May 15:42

[tirolo_ph]

The Three D Mucketeer said:

I can't PM you because you haven't got an email address on your profile !!!!

The WIKI code is visible to anyone if you go into the WIKI and select UPDATE ... as with any WIKI (the try PREVIEW)

Here are THREE WIKIs on the TUSCAN FORUM affected are these .... but I should imagine ALL WIKIs with formatting are experiencing the same difficulty

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I would suggest you contact your s/w supplier and tell them they've cocked up !!!!

It does seem to be pipes followed by [ ( ||[ needs to be || [ ) looking at other WIKIs ... and probably all types of brackets following || .

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Monday 11th May 15:42

right, I got your email btw, I was able to identify the offenders... a quick find and replace for:
find: )*nospace*|| replace with: )*add space here*||
and: '*nospace*|| replace with '*add space here*|| < note the single quote here

this did the trick for now and I'm able to preview all three wikis you've mentioned. I'm still working with the provider to get a proper fix but this should unblock any updates to the wiki for now

[The Three D Mucketeer]

Thank you for your help ..Keith

PS Which editor did you use ( Windows ??) ... I assume NOTEPAD or similiar

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Tuesday 12th May 09:24

[tirolo_ph]

I find vscode to be the best one these days

https://code.visualstudio.com/

[The Three D Mucketeer]

I'll give it a try ...

I think it was more the Quote and Pipe , as in ||' S' || (with the space)

Any chance of fixing the size restriction problem ??? IF you look at my WIKI I get all this PH info appearing which I don't want

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Tuesday 12th May 14:45