Stick or twist?
Stick or twist?
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Alan99UK

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50 posts

14 months

Saturday 14th February
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My daughter has had her 2010 1.6 petrol astra for nearly 3 years. Up to about 6 months ago it's been great but then things started to go wrong. Water leaks, heater stopped working etc which a local mechanic believes he has fixed.. then the clutch has started to go. The other thing is ( @98k miles ) it lost a lot of power.. she still drives it every day but lost a bit a confidence it's going to get there...lol

A few weeks ago her nana offered to sell her 2016 1.4 Kia Rio (only 41k miles) for £5k.

She hasn't go that money so would have to borrow it

Now the conundrum..does she spend money on a new clutch and maybe a top end rebuild (only a guess) for a lot less money or go for the Kia which is a good price..

Cheers


Dave _

203 posts

142 months

Sunday 15th February
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£5k looks close to dealer forecourt price looking at AT, doesn’t she get on with your daughter?

samoht

6,989 posts

169 months

Sunday 15th February
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While I wouldn't generally use a WBAC valuation for a fair value of a car, in the case of sale within the family I probably would. See what they'd pay for the Kia, that would feel like a more appropriate valuation in this case.

Otherwise yes it sounds like it might be a good time to get rid of the Ashtray, 16 years old and quite a few potential upsides of buying something newer.

ChrisH72

2,800 posts

75 months

Sunday 15th February
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I know we're all different and I'm not judging but that does seem a bit mean of Nana.

My dad passed away last year. He had a 2015 Citroen C3 picasso with 40k miles which he looked after very well from new. I don't need it and didn't particularly want it but my brother did. We just put it into wbac and agreed he could keep the car and give me half the figure. After all that's most likely where it had gone if we had sold it.

Perhaps in this case Nana is just guessing at the price? I'd run the reg through wbac and let her know what it comes up with. For reference my dad's Citroen was £3500 but a dealer would be asking at least £5k maybe more.

Alan99UK

Original Poster:

50 posts

14 months

Sunday 15th February
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I did look at a valuation , webuyanycar offered £6500 and her.local Kia garage offered her £7k so I don't think £5k is a bad price ?

NDA

24,817 posts

248 months

Sunday 15th February
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Does her grandmother need the money?

Why doesn't grannie give her the car and make her pay back £100 a month or something?

We had a similar situation in my family and the car (with a similar value) was given as a gift to the grandchild.

To answer your question, a newer, lightly driven Kia would be the one to go for as the current car is only goint to get more expensive.

Alan99UK

Original Poster:

50 posts

14 months

Sunday 15th February
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How can I be subtle ...nana has not been wise with her choices. Lives on her own in a rented flat about 2hrs away and from what she says doesn't even put the heating on much to save money but has to sell the car as her eyesight is too poor

ChrisH72

2,800 posts

75 months

Sunday 15th February
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Alan99UK said:
I did look at a valuation , webuyanycar offered £6500 and her.local Kia garage offered her £7k so I don't think £5k is a bad price ?
In that case yes it's a good price.

But if your daughter can't afford it then I guess it's irrelevant?

Might be better to look for something else in her budget. But I'd agree on getting rid of the Astra.

Davie

5,925 posts

238 months

Sunday 15th February
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My gut feeling is she's being rail roaded towards a ten year old Kia Rio she can't afford, borrowing money to buy. There's a big choice out there for £5k... and a big choice out there for half that. But as always, depends on many unique variables such as what she wants, what she needs, what she's prepared to get into debt to have. I'd also be questioning how good said is.


Monkeylegend

28,433 posts

254 months

Sunday 15th February
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The Astra must have a value so selling that to WBAC might mean she has less to find to buy the Kia than she would have to spend on the Astra.

Personally I would go for the Kia at the much lower mileage.

Alan99UK

Original Poster:

50 posts

14 months

Sunday 15th February
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She needs a reliable 5 door petrol hatchback that is less than £400 tax per year, reasonable on insurance (she's 24) and around 34+ mpg

Although most journeys are less than an hour ahead is doing three jobs 5 days a week.

paul_c123

1,871 posts

16 months

Sunday 15th February
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Alan99UK said:
She hasn't go that money so would have to borrow it
Is this a fair summary:

1. She has an unreliable car
2. She wants a better car, because of the loss of confidence/depression of driving a 2010 Astra
3. She doesn't have any money? (How much does she actually have, let's assume the Astra can make it to a dealer to be part-ex'd)

Macneil

1,063 posts

103 months

Sunday 15th February
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No brainer to ditch rhe Astra, but if it were my daughter I'd be suggesting a Fiesta, if the ecoboost worries you there's the 1.25, we've one of each, brilliant cars, and if she needs the space a Focus.

TarquinMX5

2,513 posts

103 months

Sunday 15th February
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NDA said:
Does her grandmother need the money?

Why doesn't grannie give her the car and make her pay back £100 a month or something?

We had a similar situation in my family and the car (with a similar value) was given as a gift to the grandchild.

To answer your question, a newer, lightly driven Kia would be the one to go for as the current car is only goint to get more expensive.
This sounds reasonable to me (unless granny would then feel obliged to give cars to the other 14 grandchilden smile)

Jamescrs

5,902 posts

88 months

Sunday 15th February
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There has to be something better available for 5k than a 10 year old Kia Rio

Alan99UK

Original Poster:

50 posts

14 months

Sunday 15th February
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Like what ?.. I had a very quick look on Facebook and there is not a lot of newer 5 doors with really low mileage for £5k.but I'm here to be proved wrong

Macneil

1,063 posts

103 months

Sunday 15th February
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I think "really low mileage" and 5k in a car anyone would actually want to own are incompaible really, nothing wrong with a 40-50k car these days.


paul_c123

1,871 posts

16 months

Sunday 15th February
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"Really low mileage" commands a MASSIVE price premium these days. I can't value the Kia with the info given (I'd need it to be more specific) but you can do it yourself eg hpivaluations.com (but even then, take that with a pinch of salt because of the mileage). It may well be that £5k is a good bargain and obviously with it being in the family there's a reassurance its a reasonable car etc. Its just that if she can't afford £5k anyway, might only be semi-relevant. It would come down to, can she afford to borrow the rest.

stevemcs

9,950 posts

116 months

Sunday 15th February
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Buy the Kia, it’s a waste spending the money on the Astra

ZX10R NIN

30,024 posts

148 months

Sunday 15th February
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WBAC the Astra as it is & find a new mechanic because they don't sound like they're the best.

Then she'll have to borrow the difference.