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I bought an early Euro5 Discovery Sport on purpose because it was the older 2.2d engine rather than Ingenium.
Euro 5 is less complex, although will still have a DPF.
Doesnt bother me at all. Ironically, the Euro6 diesel I own still gets billed the ULEZ charge because TFL are w
kers and can't seem to deal with private plates.
Euro 5 is less complex, although will still have a DPF.
Doesnt bother me at all. Ironically, the Euro6 diesel I own still gets billed the ULEZ charge because TFL are w
kers and can't seem to deal with private plates.Robertb said:
I bought an early Euro5 Discovery Sport on purpose because it was the older 2.2d engine rather than Ingenium.
Euro 5 is less complex, although will still have a DPF.
Doesnt bother me at all. Ironically, the Euro6 diesel I own still gets billed the ULEZ charge because TFL are wkers and can't seem to deal with private plates.
2.2D vs 2.0 Ingenium is EXACTLY what I'm thinking overEuro 5 is less complex, although will still have a DPF.
Doesnt bother me at all. Ironically, the Euro6 diesel I own still gets billed the ULEZ charge because TFL are w
kers and can't seem to deal with private plates.Robertb said:
I bought an early Euro5 Discovery Sport on purpose because it was the older 2.2d engine rather than Ingenium.
Euro 5 is less complex, although will still have a DPF.
Doesnt bother me at all. Ironically, the Euro6 diesel I own still gets billed the ULEZ charge because TFL are wkers and can't seem to deal with private plates.
TFL do not or will not pay for access to DVLA. Euro 5 is less complex, although will still have a DPF.
Doesnt bother me at all. Ironically, the Euro6 diesel I own still gets billed the ULEZ charge because TFL are w
kers and can't seem to deal with private plates.If your plate has been transferred from a non compliant car you need to contact them or they will just keep billing you.
Check every diesel before dismissing it on Euro Status,
My mates 2008 Astra he has run for years came up compliant.
My 2007 C220 cdi comes up compliant, I know of many other examples.
And there are plenty of others that have paid crooked TFL staff to alter records.
It's a lottery, check everything.
EdT said:
2.2D vs 2.0 Ingenium is EXACTLY what I'm thinking over
As a general rule, Euro 6 diesels tend to be a little more refined than Euro 5 ones, ie a particular model's previous generation vs current.If its a JLR product, the 2.2D isn't that refined in a transverse configuration (eg RR Evoque or Disco Sport) but its okay in a Jag XF; but the 2.0 Ingenium diesel is so problematic it should be on anyone's "avoid" list.
paul_c123 said:
As a general rule, Euro 6 diesels tend to be a little more refined than Euro 5 ones, ie a particular model's previous generation vs current.
If its a JLR product, the 2.2D isn't that refined in a transverse configuration (eg RR Evoque or Disco Sport) but its okay in a Jag XF; but the 2.0 Ingenium diesel is so problematic it should be on anyone's "avoid" list.
On JLR I would choose reliability over refinement any day.If its a JLR product, the 2.2D isn't that refined in a transverse configuration (eg RR Evoque or Disco Sport) but its okay in a Jag XF; but the 2.0 Ingenium diesel is so problematic it should be on anyone's "avoid" list.
paul_c123 said:
As a general rule, Euro 6 diesels tend to be a little more refined than Euro 5 ones, ie a particular model's previous generation vs current.
If its a JLR product, the 2.2D isn't that refined in a transverse configuration (eg RR Evoque or Disco Sport) but its okay in a Jag XF; but the 2.0 Ingenium diesel is so problematic it should be on anyone's "avoid" list.
The entire world is telling me to avoid the Ingenium 2.0 diesel. I've listened!If its a JLR product, the 2.2D isn't that refined in a transverse configuration (eg RR Evoque or Disco Sport) but its okay in a Jag XF; but the 2.0 Ingenium diesel is so problematic it should be on anyone's "avoid" list.
So... dare I ask... 2.0 Petrol. So far research says better. How much better though??
EdT said:
The entire world is telling me to avoid the Ingenium 2.0 diesel. I've listened!
So... dare I ask... 2.0 Petrol. So far research says better. How much better though??
Petrol ingenium's have better reliability over the diesels, but still can have its issues re: stretched timing chains, but a better bet than the diesel version I think - all cars have their issues if you google them So... dare I ask... 2.0 Petrol. So far research says better. How much better though??
Pick what suits you, and over maintain it as best you can would be my advise on any car tbh.
EdT said:
The entire world is telling me to avoid the Ingenium 2.0 diesel. I've listened!
So... dare I ask... 2.0 Petrol. So far research says better. How much better though??
It's better but can suffer with timing chain issues (as can bmw audi etc) so I wouldn't discount them anymore than anything else, buy on condition/receipts/making sure everything works twice & a good test drive. So... dare I ask... 2.0 Petrol. So far research says better. How much better though??
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