RE: Alain Menu returns to the BTCC
RE: Alain Menu returns to the BTCC
Wednesday 29th January 2014

Alain Menu returns to the BTCC

Double champion to race for Team BMR in a Passat CC this season



What with the F1 circus out in force at Jerez, most other motorsport seems to politely take a back seat as testing commences. Fortunately, there has been yet more good news from the BTCC (as if PH's media tie-upand the Civic wagon wasn't enough) with the news of Alain Menu's return.

Menu with Team BMR's Warren Scott
Menu with Team BMR's Warren Scott
That's right, the 1997 and 2000 champion with be back in British Touring Cars for 2014 with the Team BMR VW Passat CC, 22 years after his BTCC debut. He will be team mate Irishman Aron Smith, with team owner Warren Scott racing a Vauxhall Insignia. The Passat took three podiums in 2013, a result the team will hope to build on this season.

Of his comeback, Menu said: "This is exciting... I'm well aware that it will be different with a new team and new cars, but I've been watching the races, have spoken to a lot of people about it and the championship is really picking up at the moment."

Hopefully a few old rivalries will be reignited as the Swiss returns as well: "I want to have fun too... It will be nice to race against people like Matt Neal again, and Gordon Shedden was trying to break into the BTCC just as I left so I'm looking forward to racing against him. Jason [Plato] has matured since we were team-mates too, so I'm sure we'll get on well." We wouldn't be so sure about the last point Alain...

To mark this significant occasion for touring cars, we needed a video of Menu in action. Here he is 1998 leading at Oulton Park when Paul Radisich has the temerity to hold him up. Not for long!

 

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loudlashadjuster

Original Poster:

6,082 posts

208 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Not the classiest driving Menu's ever done in that video!

coogy

962 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Those were the days! driving

simonigrale

918 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Yey! A proper driver in the BTCC again!!!

civicduty

1,857 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Matt Bird said:
That's right, the 1997 and 2000 champion with be back in British Touring Cars for 2014 with the Team BMR VW Passat CC, 22 years after his BTCC debut. He will be team mate Irishman Aron Smith, with team owner Warren Scott racing a Vauxhall Insignia.
Can anyone spot the spelling mistakes?

steveb8189

516 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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civicduty said:
Can anyone spot the spelling mistakes?
Wouldn't it be great being your own team mate? I with let other people find the other one

supertouring

2,228 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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"Plato has matured since we were team mates" - OUCH!

civicduty

1,857 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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On a different note, I love how the cars look more like what came out of the showroom, stick a big wing on the back and splitter on the front and you had a touring car replica (Glossing over the completely different front wings on the Mondeo and the massive wheels).

menoy

142 posts

158 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Never knew there was a touring car Renault 19 - any idea if there was a homologation special for it?

civicduty

1,857 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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menoy said:
Never knew there was a touring car Renault 19 - any idea if there was a homologation special for it?
Just appears to be based on the Renault 19 16v,

http://touringcarracing.net/Pages/1993%20Cars.html

MikeGoodwin

153 posts

202 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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What the fk happened to BTCC, DTM etc

Maybe its the retro 'VHS' style recording that gives it some nostalgia, but what about the commentary - its brilliant, they make half the interest and excitement. These days all we have is people who sound like they suffer from hypothyroidism and are about to die. But the cars bouncing about like that and the constant physical contact makes for really interesting viewing. I know technology moves forward and ballast/aero keeps the cars glued to the ground but the drivers look like they are under strict orders not to cause damage or overtake each other. And where did all this bullst bodywork come from? 90's BTCC actually resembled the road going cars in most ways yet modern ones bare little resemblance.....

Motorsport is dead. I dont watch F1 anymore and probably wont this year and I certainly dont watch BTCC.

Clio Cups are about the only thing interesting to watch now. They are just about holding onto old school racing.

jamespink

1,218 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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supertouring said:
"Plato has matured since we were team mates" - OUCH!
It remains to be seen how mature Plato is when racing begins... A poke in the eye with a Menu stick will doubtless calm the situation...

Craiglamuffin

359 posts

204 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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I was at Thruxton a few years ago for the BTCC final round, when Vauxhall called Menu in for a 3rd car to help support Giovanardi's title bid. (SEAT did the same by calling in Tom Coronel I think, to support Plato).

Menu did a really mucky move at the complex on lap 1 of race 3 to block Plato. The cameras missed it but the crowd were livid. I still can't make my mind up if that move makes him a bad driver or a really good one!

chrisemersons

143 posts

167 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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MikeGoodwin said:
Motorsport is dead. I dont watch F1 anymore and probably wont this year and I certainly dont watch BTCC.

Clio Cups are about the only thing interesting to watch now. They are just about holding onto old school racing.
Hilarious !!

I expect Menu will be telling everyone after the first round at Brands 'how much better the super touring days were'

MCBrowncoat

1,646 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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jamespink said:
supertouring said:
"Plato has matured since we were team mates" - OUCH!
It remains to be seen how mature Plato is when racing begins... A poke in the eye with a Menu stick will doubtless calm the situation...
This brings back memories, Menu and Plato in the Lagunas... the first TOCA on the Playstation... I seem to remember Top Gear did a piece on Plato during or just after his first season and that the Renault mechanics had made him a 'new' Laguna from all the bits he'd smashed off during the season

irfan1712

1,282 posts

177 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Seeing that Laguna in the yellow/blue livery brings back so many memories of one of my fave PS1 Game, Toca Touring cars!

iloveboost

1,531 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Watching that video makes me happy. biggrin So many memories of nineties BTCC, F1 and WRC. Good racing.

RemyMartin

6,759 posts

229 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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MikeGoodwin said:
What the fk happened to BTCC, DTM etc

Maybe its the retro 'VHS' style recording that gives it some nostalgia, but what about the commentary - its brilliant, they make half the interest and excitement. These days all we have is people who sound like they suffer from hypothyroidism and are about to die. But the cars bouncing about like that and the constant physical contact makes for really interesting viewing. I know technology moves forward and ballast/aero keeps the cars glued to the ground but the drivers look like they are under strict orders not to cause damage or overtake each other. And where did all this bullst bodywork come from? 90's BTCC actually resembled the road going cars in most ways yet modern ones bare little resemblance.....

Motorsport is dead. I dont watch F1 anymore and probably wont this year and I certainly dont watch BTCC.

Clio Cups are about the only thing interesting to watch now. They are just about holding onto old school racing.
With respect, thats complete bks.

Anyone who attended the absolute rain sodden final round at Brands (and there were no shortage of those) would also tell you how that is complete nonsense. Its a very rose tinted view that everything was better 'back in the day' and sure the supertouring era was epic, but the world changes etc and motorsport has to too, supertouring was absolutely silly in terms of cost.

What we have now is pretty competetive driving that is exciting to watch.

PS if motorsport is dead what are you doing loitering in the motorsport section, surely nothing here interests you, so move along now!

shake n bake

2,221 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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MikeGoodwin said:
What the fk happened to BTCC, DTM etc

Maybe its the retro 'VHS' style recording that gives it some nostalgia, but what about the commentary - its brilliant, they make half the interest and excitement. These days all we have is people who sound like they suffer from hypothyroidism and are about to die. But the cars bouncing about like that and the constant physical contact makes for really interesting viewing. I know technology moves forward and ballast/aero keeps the cars glued to the ground but the drivers look like they are under strict orders not to cause damage or overtake each other. And where did all this bullst bodywork come from? 90's BTCC actually resembled the road going cars in most ways yet modern ones bare little resemblance.....

Motorsport is dead. I dont watch F1 anymore and probably wont this year and I certainly dont watch BTCC.

Clio Cups are about the only thing interesting to watch now. They are just about holding onto old school racing.
A bit ott I think. Also, I don't think I've seen a season of btcc like last year with so much contact in it for at least 10 years. Also, the clio cup that supported the btcc has had such a low turn out the past two seasons it truly is a shadow of its former self.

willthisnamework

103 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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MikeGoodwin said:
What the fk happened to BTCC, DTM etc

Maybe its the retro 'VHS' style recording that gives it some nostalgia, but what about the commentary - its brilliant, they make half the interest and excitement. These days all we have is people who sound like they suffer from hypothyroidism and are about to die. But the cars bouncing about like that and the constant physical contact makes for really interesting viewing. I know technology moves forward and ballast/aero keeps the cars glued to the ground but the drivers look like they are under strict orders not to cause damage or overtake each other. And where did all this bullst bodywork come from? 90's BTCC actually resembled the road going cars in most ways yet modern ones bare little resemblance.....

Motorsport is dead. I dont watch F1 anymore and probably wont this year and I certainly dont watch BTCC.

Clio Cups are about the only thing interesting to watch now. They are just about holding onto old school racing.
How does Ballast "glue" the cars to the ground? Guess you haven't grasped basic physics. The cars from the 90's we built by very professional teams. Have you ever heard of williams, Prodrive, RML... The super touring cars has flat floors and bodywork developed in wind tunnel, rear wing and front splitter that generated downforce. I have been reliably informed the modern standardised rear wing produces two tenths of fk all downforce because it's "cos it looks cool init". If you want to see cars smash into each other go and watch a bit of stock car racing.

hammo19

7,137 posts

220 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Check out the Historic Super Touring Car championship this year - you are very likely to see the old Lagunas back on the UK tracks