The Official Indian GP 2011 Thread ***Spoilers***
The Official Indian GP 2011 Thread ***Spoilers***
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woof

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8,456 posts

306 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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yeah i know ...

But wouldn't you be pissed off if you'd booked your time off work, got your non refundable flights and hotel for the 28-30 October and now they're talking of moving it to December 11, 2 weeks after the Brazilian GP !!!

This has all come about the cancellation of the Bahrain GP.
However, I'm sure it's just Bernie making the right noises before they knock Bahrain on the head for 2011 (hopefully forever).



Targarama

14,780 posts

312 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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I hope so too. Frankly Bahrain doesn't deserve the grand prix after the human rights violations going on there. Bernie thinks with his wallet though.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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What a joke all this is, they need to cancel the Bahrain Gp outright and move on! Its a long season as it is and now there is even talk of the Indian Gp being moved to December the 11th, the day of the FIA prize giving gala! And what if the trouble starts again and they cant hold the race again, the sport would look rediculous, not that would be the most important thing if it does.

just fk off Bernie!

Stu R

21,634 posts

244 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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When the decision is purely financial, it can't be of benefit to the fans. Unfortunately for us, the fans, the decision will forever remain a financial one.

IanUAE

3,070 posts

193 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Bahrain has a few staffing isses at the moment as about 50% of the staff have been either sacked or arrested. All for cheering that the race was being cancelled is the reason being reported over here the middle east.

qureshia

4,761 posts

235 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Anyone know if there are any concessions for visa if travelling to the grand prix ?

Last time I travelled to India, it too 6 months (and a letter from the local MP) for me to get my visa ? furious

llewop

3,945 posts

240 months

Saturday 28th May 2011
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Targarama said:
I hope so too. Frankly Bahrain doesn't deserve the grand prix after the human rights violations going on there. Bernie thinks with his wallet though.
yes With some of the things the teams are saying, I get the feeling they think the same thing - bin it for this year and move on.

woof

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8,456 posts

306 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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There's been growing concerns since Monza that teams would be taxed for earnings and equipment whilst in India. Now looks like drivers will also be taxed on earnings !

In other countries the circuits effectively becoming "bonded warehouses" which gets around local tax issues.
Someone didn't do their homework ?!

The Chairman of Central Board of Exise and Customs told PTI that an exemption could not be granted since India did not consider the grand prix an even of national importance.

"When equipments are imported for sports events of national importance, the Sports Ministry issues a certificate on the basis of which Customs Department issues exemption notification subject to them (equipment) getting exported back. For Commonwealth Games and the (cricket) World Cup, those certificates were issued, so we gave exemption," said S D Majumder.

"In this case, the Sports Ministry has not given any certificate, so there is no question of granting any exemption. As it is, they are entitled to get duty drawback up to 98 per cent on the equipment imported.

"So effectively, they will have to pay only around 2 per cent. This is not an event of national importance so no such exemption is required."

Race organisers try to solve the issue
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94543

But Martin Whitmarsh admits Indian Grand Prix tax issue still a concern
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94871


Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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2011, the only year of the Indian GP perhaps?

woof

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8,456 posts

306 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Who knows - I don't really understand why F1 is in India in the first place. Well I do, someone rich is paying for it. But how can the promoter make money on it, when the majority of the local population can't afford a ticket.

I can't see many overseas tourists going to India to watch F1 !!

stevieb

5,253 posts

296 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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woof said:
Who knows - I don't really understand why F1 is in India in the first place. Well I do, someone rich is paying for it. But how can the promoter make money on it, when the majority of the local population can't afford a ticket.

I can't see many overseas tourists going to India to watch F1 !!
Salaries in the major India Cities are not that bad if you are skilled. The difference is there is a huge salary gap between the skilled and non-skilled worker.

Melvin Udall

73,668 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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I thought the tax issue was all sorted?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/formula_one/149162...

f1365

23 posts

187 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Latest pictures of Indian GP - Buddh International Circuit
http://www.formula1onlive.com/2011/08/latest-pictu...

Melvin Udall

73,668 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Do you have something to do with that website?

Crafty_

14,067 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Melvin Udall said:
I thought the tax issue was all sorted?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/formula_one/149162...
Apparently not

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/27092011/58/indian-g...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94871

I'd be surprised if Bernie hasn't been on the phone trying to sort this one out, I wonder what the agreements between the teams and FOM say about taxes ? Would the teams just pay the taxes ?

woof

Original Poster:

8,456 posts

306 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Neither the teams nor FOM are going to pay tax to the Indian Government.

Cancelling the Indian GP wouldn't be out of the question. Both the driver and team champs will be sorted after Japan. Can't see anyone really interested in going, esp if they're not going to get their full wage packet from it?!

There's still 2 weeks or so till they need to make a decision and the circuit looks near enough complete

Edited by woof on Wednesday 28th September 00:04

Kinky

39,941 posts

298 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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I'd heard that the tax situation is far from sorted; and also bear in mind that it's not just company/corporation tax, but also personal tax liability for each and every employee; so they would have to pay tax on (I think) 1 months worth of salary eek

Also heard that a some team members and even some drivers have had their visas rejected!

How much of this is true - I really personally don't know; so take it with a pinch of salt smile

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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You'd think Bernie would get some government buy-in to the idea of hosting a F1 race before confirming it in the calendar.

Melvin Udall

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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Poor form by Bernie.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

268 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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Getting a visa for India has always been a pain. The staff are arrogant beyond belief and look as if doing any work is beneath them . They rarely answer the phone too.
Passports go missing and they do not care. It has taken a Year for my mother to obtain a replacement Indian passport.