BBC to drop F1 - it is just too expensive
BBC to drop F1 - it is just too expensive
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rdjohn

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7,156 posts

224 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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From today's Sunday times

The BBC is poised to drop Formula One motor racing rather than close one of its digital channels.

Its contract to screen F1 for five seasons until 2013 will cost £300m. At about £3m for each race, it is the most expensive BBC programme being broadcast.

Lord Patten, chairman of the BBC Trust, recently signalled that BBC4 could be axed to make up the savings required by the freeze in the licence fee until April 2017.

Now senior sources said the corporation can spare BBC4 if it saves the annual £60m that it spends on F1. An insider said the cost of covering 19 F1 races was more than the entire annual budget of BBC4.

The source said the BBC did not intend to rebid for the F1 contract when it expired in November 2013.

It has emerged that F1 costs £1 a head for every viewer, compared with the average 7p an hour broadcast cost for BBC1 and BBC2. Apart from the British Grand Prix, most races attract only between 2m and 4m viewers.

It costs more for each hour than even the most expensive dramas such as South Riding, Cranford and Doctor Who.

Dumping F1, whose audience is largely male, could ensure that the BBC will be able to keep its grip on Wimbledon, which has a broader audience. Its current contract with the All England Club runs out after 2014.

The BBC is also determined to hang on to its existing football highlights programmes which include Match of the Day and its sister programme Match of the Day 2 on Sunday.

The proposal to dump F1 will be among a package of measures to be put to the BBC Trust in the early autumn. Other measures include cutting daytime schedules on BBC2 and also overnight programming.

It is likely that BBC4 will survive but will reduce its drama output where it has made a mark with biopics of such people as Enid Blyton, Hattie Jacques, Kenneth Williams and Margot Fonteyn.

Strachan

6,419 posts

183 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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madmadmadfuriousfrown

Regiment

2,799 posts

188 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Scrap bbc3 and 4, does anyone even watch them?

Jasandjules

72,571 posts

258 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Arggghh.

F1 better not go to Sky or somewhere.

deltaevo16

755 posts

200 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Its such a pity that we the licence payers do not have more say in what BBC shows, the vast majority of output from the Beeb is utter tosh. It has by far the best coverage I have ever seen in all the years watching
the sport. Such a bloody shame frown Pity Bernie can't put some money in, Think we need a petition ?

GAjon

4,077 posts

242 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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I'd wager someone is playing with numbers here and only counting the cost per race broadcast and conveniently forgetting the on line, radio & red button broadcasts which must be in the region of 12 - 15 hrs per race weekend.

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Gewt rid of the crappy reality shows, and stupid talent shows.

Kinky

39,941 posts

298 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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BBC4? confused

Streps

2,457 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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furious It's the only thing worth paying the TV licence for.

Silver

4,373 posts

255 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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That would be a massive shame. The BBC coverage of F1 is very good and the fact it doesn't have commercial breaks makes it watchable. If it went to Sky I'm not sure I would watch, not least because Sky Sports is so expensive - not worth paying for the package just for F1.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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The report is in The Times.

Who owns The Times?

Does the owner of The Times have a vested interest in ensuring the BBC loses the rights to cover F1?

When is the last time a positive news story about the BBC has ever been reported in The Times.

vescaegg

30,127 posts

196 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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God this would kill me. I live for those 4 hour tv sessions!

We finally get amazing coverage after years of that itv crap and now the BBC can't afford it?!

spike ST500

1,295 posts

184 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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The BBC coverage is ace, when in Germany last weekend was terrible watching it, with advert breaks that kept interrupting the it!

Bernie needs to reduce the amount F1 charge the BBC, and I'm sure the BBC could save a bit, on their production costs.


Alex97

1,121 posts

217 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Didn't Jake say we had some massive figures for F1, like one of the early 6am races drew 4m viewers, then the Canadian Grand Prix drew 6m?

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Agree with Eric.

Blustering by Murdoch.

I have already drafted a letter to Chris Patton though. smile

spike ST500

1,295 posts

184 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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6m viewers waiting to see how they would fill the red flag time next, the shot of the bird, then the identification on Twitter made me chuckle!

I did watch it back on iplayer, as most in our group did, once back from Germany. Even sat through the whole 2 hrs of downtime, instead fast forwarding iplayer lol

CivicMan

2,211 posts

230 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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NathanJones

713 posts

242 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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I was reading this out loud to the other half on our way to Brands Hatch this morning, we are of the opinion this will become a "pay to view" sport frown

Blib

48,021 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Eric makes a telling point here.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

247 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Kinky said:
BBC4? confused
That was my first thought hehe

Would be interesting to see a breakdown of the £3 million/race cost...