Honda eyes F1 return with McLaren
Honda eyes F1 return with McLaren
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RESSE

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6,096 posts

250 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Honda could be looking to return to formula one in 2014, according to Germany's Auto Motor und Sport.

The report said the Japanese manufacturer having pulled out of formula one as an engine and chassis maker in 2008 might reunite with McLaren.

"The chances are good that with the introduction of the turbo V6s in 2014, Honda will celebrate a comeback with McLaren," read the German report.

The Woking based team's current engine supplier Mercedes, formerly a McLaren co-owner, will actually charge McLaren for the use of its 2.4 litre V8s in 2013, the report added.

"A senior manager said at Suzuka that technically Honda is getting ready to return with a turbo V6 from 2014. Only the green light of the board is missing," said Auto Motor und Sport.

Ozone

3,102 posts

216 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Williams Renault back next season and McLaren Honda on the horizon, sounds like a good combination smile

DanB7290

5,535 posts

219 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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How awesome would it be to go back to red and white McLaren? Probably not too likely as that was Marlboro's colours, but with some slight modification, have Honda championship white, with splashes of red for the Vodafone logos, and replace Marlboro with Vodafone on the engine cover, and hey presto! Now all we need is the blue, yellow and white Williams and we are sorted!

andyb66

289 posts

198 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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....and we have may someone called Senna in a black and gold Lotus biggrin

jarnold88

843 posts

208 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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andyb66 said:
....and we have may someone called Senna in a black and gold Lotus biggrin
That has sort of already happened though.

andyb66

289 posts

198 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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jarnold88 said:
That has sort of already happened though.
That's what I meant, given that the post above mentioned white and red McLarens and the like smile

Derek Smith

49,673 posts

277 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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RESSE said:
Honda could be looking to return to formula one in 2014, according to Germany's Auto Motor und Sport.

The report said the Japanese manufacturer having pulled out of formula one as an engine and chassis maker in 2008 might reunite with McLaren.

"The chances are good that with the introduction of the turbo V6s in 2014, Honda will celebrate a comeback with McLaren," read the German report.

The Woking based team's current engine supplier Mercedes, formerly a McLaren co-owner, will actually charge McLaren for the use of its 2.4 litre V8s in 2013, the report added.

"A senior manager said at Suzuka that technically Honda is getting ready to return with a turbo V6 from 2014. Only the green light of the board is missing," said Auto Motor und Sport.
Whose board? Honda or McL?

I'd tread carefully with Honda. They are fickle. They come, they go and they go at the most inopportune times.

RESSE

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6,096 posts

250 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Derek Smith said:
Whose board? Honda or McL?

I'd tread carefully with Honda. They are fickle. They come, they go and they go at the most inopportune times.
I read it as Honda's Board.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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RESSE said:
I read it as Honda's Board.
Me to.

NOt sure if McLaren with fancy another dance with the devil, especially when no one knows if they will be providing a stallion or a retired donkey.

sirtyro

1,824 posts

227 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Isn't the Mercedes engine still the most powerful and regarded as the best?!? Also when Honda were a works team there engine wasn't regarded as very good....hence Brawn getting a deal with Merc! Think Mclaren should try and stick with Merc or make their own engine.

DanB7290

5,535 posts

219 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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sirtyro said:
Isn't the Mercedes engine still the most powerful and regarded as the best?!? Also when Honda were a works team there engine wasn't regarded as very good....hence Brawn getting a deal with Merc! Think Mclaren should try and stick with Merc or make their own engine.
Maybe if Honda are only an engine supplier, their resources will be much more focused, resulting in a better engine?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

181 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Well in the 3 litre v10 era, Honda were producing some of the most powerful units.

The 2.4 V8 wasn't much cop I don't think, but the Brawn deal with Mercedes was done as Honda had pulled out totally and were unwilling to provide any sort of engines

Matt..

4,019 posts

218 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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So what's happened to McLaren making their own engines?

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

193 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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I think they should go with Peugeot hehe

Seeing a McLaren designed/built engine and chassis competing in F1 would be pretty damn cool.

ady_GTi

327 posts

239 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Honda (of sorts) are building a V6 turbo for the IRL, could be a useful headstart?

ajprice

33,266 posts

225 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Unless they extend it again, Vodafone sponsorship ends at the end of 2013. If they change sponsors at the same time as getting Honda engines, I hope they go with their own orange colour. I do always hope they do this whenever there is a change in the team though, they ran orange cars in testing a few years ago when they had West sponsorship and (I think) DC and Mika driving.

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Matt.. said:
So what's happened to McLaren making their own engines?
They said they can't do it. At least not for 2013/2015.

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

193 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
They said they can't do it. At least not for 2013/2015.
Didn't know that, shame frown 12C project probably the reason.

AlpineWhite

2,164 posts

224 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
They said they can't do it. At least not for 2013/2015.
Interesting, I must've missed that. Any chance of a source?

andyps

7,819 posts

311 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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James Allen seems to think it unlikely, mainly from the Honda perspective - http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/11/is-honda-rea...