De La Rosa to drive for HRT...
De La Rosa to drive for HRT...
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joewilliams

Original Poster:

2,004 posts

230 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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...for the next two years, according to ManipeF1.

I wouldn't expect anything spectacular from either of them, but getting a proven development driver in at least shows the right intent from HRT.

groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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TheArchitect

1,238 posts

208 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Just hope they don't keep swapping drivers for pay cheques.

DanB7290

5,535 posts

219 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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TheArchitect said:
Just hope they don't keep swapping drivers for pay cheques.
I'm fairly sure that if that Scottish couple who won £161m on the Euromillions went to HRT, they'd get a drive.

Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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DanB7290 said:
TheArchitect said:
Just hope they don't keep swapping drivers for pay cheques.
I'm fairly sure that if that Scottish couple who won £161m on the Euromillions went to HRT, they'd get a drive.
They're too busy funding the SNP.

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

193 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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So who's out at HRT? Ricciardo to STR then?

Crafty_

14,067 posts

229 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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weyland yutani said:
So who's out at HRT? Ricciardo to STR then?
Possibly, there has been talk of him replacing Trulli...

team underdog

938 posts

258 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Crafty_ said:
weyland yutani said:
So who's out at HRT? Ricciardo to STR then?
Possibly, there has been talk of him replacing Trulli...
I've not heard of the Ricciardo replacing Trulli rumour, but frankly I hope it's true. I'm tired of these old drivers clinging onto drives and depriving us of seeing fresh talent. The likes of Barrichello and Trulli need to make way. It's a shame that teams are so reluctant to take on rookies, but with the lack of testing it's no wonder.

Streps

2,457 posts

195 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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He is a good development/test driver.
Just shows though..
with the lack of testing the team has now hired him over a young driver to develop the car.


rsole

643 posts

216 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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team underdog said:
Crafty_ said:
weyland yutani said:
So who's out at HRT? Ricciardo to STR then?
Possibly, there has been talk of him replacing Trulli...
I've not heard of the Ricciardo replacing Trulli rumour, but frankly I hope it's true.

Especially as regards Trulli. Move on sir.

Marc W

3,782 posts

240 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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This thread is quite amusing, one minute people saying it's a good thing for a team to employ an experienced older driver for development etc (DLR at HRT) and the net saying teams should get rid of older drivers to make way for young ones! (Trulli at Lotus.)

skwdenyer

18,707 posts

269 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Only a day or so back, PdlR was in the press complaining that the current no-testing regime was no way for a reserve driver to be (un)employed - not even any practice to get to know a bit about the car that he might be expected to drive if called-upon.

Now, a day or so later, an announcement of a drive. Looks like a well-choreographed set of releases to me. There's no doubt that, back when testing was actually done, PdlR had a good rep as a development driver; I agree that this bodes well for HRT.

AlpineWhite

2,164 posts

224 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Marc W said:
This thread is quite amusing, one minute people saying it's a good thing for a team to employ an experienced older driver for development etc (DLR at HRT) and the net saying teams should get rid of older drivers to make way for young ones! (Trulli at Lotus.)
Can't see anyone in the posts prior to yours saying it's a good thing. A couple saying it's understandable.

Personally I think the current regs make it very difficult for younger drivers. It's hard for teams to assess them prior to signing (other than the test at Yas Marina), and it's hard for the driver to learn the car and tyres away from the pressure of a gp weekend.

JxT

339 posts

203 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Odd decision. Potentially two of Sutil / Petrov / Senna without drives for next year, who bring more money with them than PDlR. Plus Red Bull might be willing to send cash HRT's way to put a young driver in there again.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe HRT have a decent simulator to unleash him onto to develop the car.

Unfortunately it looks like "being Spanish" was the key criteria for their selection process.


groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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JxT said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe HRT have a decent simulator to unleash him onto to develop the car.
Exactly, so the only testing they can do is during the race weekend.

Also, there's an interesting insight into the politics of it all by Joe Saward: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/de-la-ro...

Graebob

2,172 posts

236 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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team underdog said:
I've not heard of the Ricciardo replacing Trulli rumour, but frankly I hope it's true. I'm tired of these old drivers clinging onto drives and depriving us of seeing fresh talent. The likes of Barrichello and Trulli need to make way. It's a shame that teams are so reluctant to take on rookies, but with the lack of testing it's no wonder.
Woah woah woah! Don't lump Barrichello in with Trulli!

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Mad! What is Kolles up to?

hornet

6,333 posts

279 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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rubystone said:
Mad! What is Kolles up to?
His neck in debts, possibly?

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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hornet said:
His neck in debts, possibly?
No doubt about that...so why get De La Rosa on board? He brings no money, will never drag a result out of a car that's beyond the car's capacity...is it 'cos he's Spanish?...

I really can't understand Kolles's strategy at all. What theories does anyone have?

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Pedro is a fantastic development driver, probably the best that there is and McLaren really really missed him when he went to Sauber. Initially this looks a bit daft from HRT, when there are drivers who are both quicker, and have cash to bring, likely to be on the market too. However, they are a new team with limited resources and big ambitions, and Pedro has a huge amount of experience 'behind the scenes' at top teams which he can bring to HRT. When resources are limited you need to know exactly where to focus your development budget for the best performance gains and I think PDLR will deliver more performance improvement using these skills than a young gun will by dragging an inferior car up above where it should be.

Given HRT are using what is effectively a hybrid of their 2010 car, and a 2010 Williams their performance has actually not been that bad, the team now seems to be fairly well run and I wouldn't be surprised to see them fighting with STR, Williams and Sauber next year.

Of course being Spanish also helps and will bring in cash from Spanish companies which their previous drivers haven't managed but I'm sure the 2 year driving contract isn't the end of it and we will see him taking on more responsibility within the team in the future.