Could/Might Schumacher win another World Championship?
Could/Might Schumacher win another World Championship?
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attym3

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7,259 posts

197 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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He's really come on this year, didn't start the best but he's been right on the heels of the top boys a few times. I suppose the real problem is that other pesky German.
Given the right car/team?

ajprice

33,266 posts

225 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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Yes. Depending on the Mercedes being fast enough, he could cause a lot of problems for the top 3 teams. A championship would be very possible.

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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Yes.

bridgdav

4,805 posts

277 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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NO..

There you have it.. a typical Ph discussion - Thread closed.

Adrian W

15,450 posts

257 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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Easily

PhillipM

6,556 posts

218 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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I think he still has the pace given the right car and a bit of luck.

AJS-

15,366 posts

265 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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Definitely.

Yes he needs the car, and he also needs the will. I question both at the moment, but I also grew up on watching Schumacher race and whatever else you may say about him, he remains by numbers quite simply the greatest F1 driver to have ever turned a wheel.

Just by numbers, I don't mean to get into discussing the various merits of Senna, Prost, Fangio or Clark, all were greats. Schumacher however mastered a winning world championships in a way that no other driver ever has. He is fit and he's still fast, the team has resources and they are getting better, so the potential is there.

OzzyR1

6,353 posts

261 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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With the right car yes, I think most of the regular top 10 would be in with a chance of a championship.

These are people with hundredths of a second per lap separating them on ability so the car makes the extra difference.

Look at Button a couple of years back, a driver with a chance of a podium normally but with that car under him almost unbeatable in the first half of the season.

Vettel too, undoubtedly an amazing talent but if he'd been in a Williams for the last two seasons, would he be a double world champion? I doubt it.

Would be interesting to see the top 10 allowed to make use of say, the Red Bull, get used to it and see what times they could put in respectively but sadly never gonna happen.

Fair dues to Schumi though, at 40 in an aggressive sport, most people are past it in terms of reactions and physical ability compared to the youngsters but he is still mixing it after 20 years or so in the game.

Rs2oo

2,210 posts

227 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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No.

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

253 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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On two conditions, 1. he has an unbeatable car. 2. his team mate does not

The Stiglet

2,063 posts

223 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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yes

Asgardian

843 posts

208 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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He could, if the Merc do a Brawn....however I doubt he'd beat Keke Nico.

Kinky

39,941 posts

298 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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In the right car, yes absolutely yes

Take Webbers or Hamiltons seat - job done wink

UpTheIron

4,058 posts

297 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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Do I like Schumi? No. Is he THE talent of our generation? YES. Given the right tools he can still win a WC even at the tail end of his career. Perversely I'd quite like to see it, and it might shut up some of his nay sayers...

Kinky

39,941 posts

298 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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UpTheIron said:
Do I like Schumi? No. Is he THE talent of our generation? YES. Given the right tools he can still win a WC even at the tail end of his career. Perversely I'd quite like to see it, and it might shut up some of his nay sayers...
Quality postage thumbup

Jimbo.

4,213 posts

218 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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40 y/o, 7 titles, yet he still fights like a wounded animal, squeezing rivals against the wall for a mid-field position whilst the rest of the grid minces around and bhes about each other claiming "dangerous" this and "spirit of the rules" that. The cold-hearted, fearless, merciless bd of a Schumacher that we all know is still there. Give him a good car, and god help the rest of the field...

Edited by Jimbo. on Saturday 26th November 21:38

Derek Smith

49,673 posts

277 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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OzzyR1 said:
With the right car yes, I think most of the regular top 10 would be in with a chance of a championship.
Says it all.

He'd have to have a team mate other than the one he's got at the moment though.

Much as we don't like to say it, F1 is all about the car, then the team and finally the driver.

Every now and again you get teams where the drivers get equal treatment, as much as that is possible. Then it is about the drivers. Senna/Prost. Otherwise the car is the most important factor.

ajprice

33,266 posts

225 months

Saturday 26th November 2011
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Jimbo. said:
40 y/o, 7 titles, yet he still fights like a wounded animal, squeezing rivals against the wall for a mid-field position whilst the rest of the grid minces around and bhes about each other claiming "dangerous" this and "spirit of the rules" that. The cold-hearted, fearless, merciless bd of a Schumacher that we all know is still there. Give him a good car, and god help the rest of the field...

Edited by Jimbo. on Saturday 26th November 21:38
This. Schumacher now, in a fast car would be great to watch fight it out with the likes of Lewis, Seb and Fred. Just let the 2012 Mercedes be good. As for a team mate, somehow I think Rosberg wouldn't come out on top and Schu would do whatever he does to mentally grind him down. I do sort of want Schumacher to get on the podium tomorrow.

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

198 months

Sunday 27th November 2011
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Very possible he could win another WDC, with the right car and a supine team mate.

I hope it does not happen though. The only thing I wish to see of the Stain is his back.

null

13,817 posts

220 months

Sunday 27th November 2011
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Not without running at least 1/3 of the grid off the road.

Evens then?