Who do we expect alongside Kimi at Renault in 2012?
Poll: Who do we expect alongside Kimi at Renault in 2012?
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I would love to see senna personally.
A bit of talk going around with Kubica ... he may be in a Ferrari in 2013 if he is fit.
Eric Boullier said he will not give him a "nice test" if this turns out true.
Will have to see if he is capable of driving again anyway.
Money talks .. so Petrov will be next to kimi probably.
No idea what will happen with Grosjean..But he deserves a drive!
A bit of talk going around with Kubica ... he may be in a Ferrari in 2013 if he is fit.
Eric Boullier said he will not give him a "nice test" if this turns out true.
Will have to see if he is capable of driving again anyway.
Money talks .. so Petrov will be next to kimi probably.
No idea what will happen with Grosjean..But he deserves a drive!
Podie said:
crofty1984 said:
I'd like it to be Senna. I know arguably he's the No2 driver to Petrov, but he's outperformed VP on a number of occasions. Plus the sponsors must love having that name to throw about.
Is Kubica definately not an option?
Should I add Kubica as an option? I figured it was pretty much and impossibility now...
kubi is not an option. he's out of contract and renault owe him nothing. he's already said that it's not going to happen, at least for the start of the year, and renault have said that means it's not going to happen for 2012. therefore he has another year to fix his broken bits, and take a 2 year old ferrari out around their track at his leisure, and replaces massa for 2013.
as for renault, senna and petrov are both fairly anonymous and reasonably matched midfield drivers. one has money, one has a name, neither are gonna set the world alight.
as for renault, senna and petrov are both fairly anonymous and reasonably matched midfield drivers. one has money, one has a name, neither are gonna set the world alight.
I reckon Grosjean will get it as imo they (Renault) want him in. Kimi may well bring a lot of money which negates Petrov. Although I personally would like to see Senna get another year in the car to settle any left over debates as he has had the same issue Grosjean had when he filled Piquets seat i.e not enough time to adapt.
Renault have an abundance of drivers but none of them are exactly head and shoulders above the others.
Petrov - Has shown some good pace on occasion but is also clumsy, and despite contesting 8 more races he only scored 3 more points than Heidfeld. Now I know they didn't exactly develop the car hard in the second half of the season but still that's pretty damning. Brings money but so do most of the youngsters will that be as urgent if Kimi's arrival can drum up some serious sponsers?
Senna - Did better than I expected if I'm honest but still capable of some classic rookie brain fade moments.
Grosjean - Looked potentially fast but erratic when he was there before. Probably worth of a second shot and I'm sure being French won't hurt his chances.
Other:
Kubica - that relationship has gone south IMO, Boullier has come out and said that if he has signed elsewhere for 2013 then they won't be helping him get back on his feet or: "Don't think you can get some practice in here for a season so you can be back to your best for Ferrari in 2013"
Barrichello - I said elsewhere that I thought he would be a good partner for Kimi at Williams when that looked feasible. Believe it makes just as much sense at Renault as it would have done at Williams, he knows his way around current spec F1 and with his experience and relative lack of ego he could probably impart that to Kimi quite quickly. He also wouldn't feel intimidated next to such a big name and still has the speed to turn in some decent results and for a midfield-ish team like LRGP some regular points finishes can mean the extra prize money to make up the shortfall from putting a driving chequebook in the car (Yes Williams I'm looking at you!) Don't think it's likely though.
Sutil - Bit of a leftfield choice since no-one has even breathed his name and Renault's together but we didn't exactly get a lot of warning about Kimi did we? He has proven himelf capable of running a good race even if he somehow failed to turn up for class for the first half of 2010.
Petrov - Has shown some good pace on occasion but is also clumsy, and despite contesting 8 more races he only scored 3 more points than Heidfeld. Now I know they didn't exactly develop the car hard in the second half of the season but still that's pretty damning. Brings money but so do most of the youngsters will that be as urgent if Kimi's arrival can drum up some serious sponsers?
Senna - Did better than I expected if I'm honest but still capable of some classic rookie brain fade moments.
Grosjean - Looked potentially fast but erratic when he was there before. Probably worth of a second shot and I'm sure being French won't hurt his chances.
Other:
Kubica - that relationship has gone south IMO, Boullier has come out and said that if he has signed elsewhere for 2013 then they won't be helping him get back on his feet or: "Don't think you can get some practice in here for a season so you can be back to your best for Ferrari in 2013"
Barrichello - I said elsewhere that I thought he would be a good partner for Kimi at Williams when that looked feasible. Believe it makes just as much sense at Renault as it would have done at Williams, he knows his way around current spec F1 and with his experience and relative lack of ego he could probably impart that to Kimi quite quickly. He also wouldn't feel intimidated next to such a big name and still has the speed to turn in some decent results and for a midfield-ish team like LRGP some regular points finishes can mean the extra prize money to make up the shortfall from putting a driving chequebook in the car (Yes Williams I'm looking at you!) Don't think it's likely though.
Sutil - Bit of a leftfield choice since no-one has even breathed his name and Renault's together but we didn't exactly get a lot of warning about Kimi did we? He has proven himelf capable of running a good race even if he somehow failed to turn up for class for the first half of 2010.
DanDC5 said:
Petrov, a new contract was signed a few weeks ago for a drive until the end of 2012 and he brings money. End of thread.
A few weeks ago? Wasn't that last year? He's not confirmed for 2012, and apparently hasn't brought as much money as possible. So no, not 'end of thread'. TheArchitect said:
I reckon Grosjean will get it as imo they (Renault) want him in. Kimi may well bring a lot of money which negates Petrov. Although I personally would like to see Senna get another year in the car to settle any left over debates as he has had the same issue Grosjean had when he filled Piquets seat i.e not enough time to adapt.
Apparently Kimi was said to be asking for $12 million for a Williams drive. Petrov is brings around $15 million to the team. basically Raikkonen's salary.
I'm half expecting that to happen.
woof said:
I voted Senna - but that's only if Senna can't find another decent drive somewhere.
I suspect if Kimi is even the slightest bit motivated, that he'll knock Senna out of the park. So Senna finding another nice safe drive, Force India ? then he'd been wise to move there
The vote is for the renault co driver though :-) I suspect if Kimi is even the slightest bit motivated, that he'll knock Senna out of the park. So Senna finding another nice safe drive, Force India ? then he'd been wise to move there
woof said:
I suspect if Kimi is even the slightest bit motivated, that he'll knock Senna out of the park. So Senna finding another nice safe drive, Force India ? then he'd been wise to move there
Force India have Sutil, Di Resta and Nico Hulkenberg already. Unless they need the cash, I'm not sure Senna brings anything they don't have already?Forums | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff