Hamilton not happy with the Macca
Hamilton not happy with the Macca
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airportparking

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1,314 posts

191 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/2/18/Hamilton-Cri...

Well I was hoping they didn't drop the ball again, I really hope Hamilton is wrong, but I do dread he is not !

UnderTheRadar

503 posts

202 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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He is a bit of a whinger. I bet Button is already quietly working out how to cope with the reduced downforce and not bothered about what the nose looks like but how it works. It seems the best drivers adapt to the car and others expect a car that suits their driving style, even though the regs don't allow it.

Crafty_

14,067 posts

229 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Some bloke says that he heard that Lewis was talking to someone else and said that the car is rubbish.

Wow, newsworthy. IIRC the German press don't like Lewis anyway..

Its just tittle tattle

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Old news (I won't be signing up to car buzz!), and based on various "interpretations" of what he's said over a few days. Not saying it's not necessarily true but it's certainly not gospel.

aryastark

170 posts

178 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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UnderTheRadar said:
He is a bit of a whinger. I bet Button is already quietly working out how to cope with the reduced downforce and not bothered about what the nose looks like but how it works. It seems the best drivers adapt to the car and others expect a car that suits their driving style, even though the regs don't allow it.
Lol, can't tell if your a troll or just mixed up the two McLaren drivers....

It's always been jenson that whinges like a baby and can't get the car performing unless its 100% set-up to his specification.

P-Jay

11,400 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Bobbings.


playalistic

2,270 posts

193 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Gaz. said:
This sounds about as genuine as that 'Mclaren' press release just before the launch of the car.
+1 totally fabricated. Reminds me of the tabloid favourite "an unnamed source close to the..." nonsense.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Well Buttons times at the test were a long time behing Hamiltons, but theres another test soon (this week?) so lets see.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Motorsport news reported this week that Hammo was happy with it so far confused

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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aryastark said:
Lol, can't tell if your a troll or just mixed up the two McLaren drivers....

It's always been jenson that whinges like a baby and can't get the car performing unless its 100% set-up to his specification.
Stop this st right now.

ETA I should add "please". Seriously, it's just pointless and gets people nowhere.

Edited by DrTre on Sunday 19th February 19:10

airportparking

Original Poster:

1,314 posts

191 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Well the next test will be interesting to say the least

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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As others have said, a non story from a journo that obviously hasn't got proper access to information sources so has made an hotch potch story from a few bits and bobs read elsewhere. The nose was the same last year when everyone else had even more aggressive interpretations of the raised nose, so if Mclaren were to question their nose concept, it would have happened before now. From what I recall, the "aggressive" fuel load quote is a comment Lewis made during Jerez testing whilst seemingly praising the car, so it wasn't clear whether his use of the word aggressive meant low fuel or high fuel.

UnderTheRadar

503 posts

202 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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DrTre said:
Stop this st right now.

ETA I should add "please". Seriously, it's just pointless and gets people nowhere.
I agree and have stopped smile

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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LocoBlade said:
As others have said, a non story from a journo that obviously hasn't got proper access to information sources so has made an hotch potch story from a few bits and bobs read elsewhere. The nose was the same last year when everyone else had even more aggressive interpretations of the raised nose, so if Mclaren were to question their nose concept, it would have happened before now. From what I recall, the "aggressive" fuel load quote is a comment Lewis made during Jerez testing whilst seemingly praising the car, so it wasn't clear whether his use of the word aggressive meant low fuel or high fuel.
Yep, in context to me at least, the aggressive fuel load was a positive statement....and the nose....well...they did OK with it last year, and if the stepped nose were a step ahead (no pun intended) then surely it would have been adopted last year?

However, as said, roll on the next test...The reporting around the RB seems ominously quiet doesn't it? (not that I've got anything against RB at all...just be nice for them to not steam roller the opposition again wink)

UtR and arayastark, apologies for being holier than thou, it'd just nice to be able to start the year of the forum where people's opinions aren't labelled troll, fan boy, hater etc just because someone disagrees. I'd agree with elements of what both of you say, personally I think Hamilton does whinge/wear his heart on his sleeve depending on your viewpoint (although I think they all do, to greater and lesser degrees) and I agree JB does prefer a car to be just so but "whinge like a baby"? I've never seen evidence of that.

team underdog

938 posts

258 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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All the drivers have commented that the cars have less downforce, largely thanks to the ban on EBD's. Some lesser informed "journalists" and "fans" could choose to interpret that as "the car is a dog".

Until the end of Q3 in Melbourne, we won't know who's hot and who's not.

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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airportparking said:
Well the next test will be interesting to say the least
No it won't. Tests never are. Well, they are interesting if you're there and can actually observe the cars as they run - see how they look on track, but they times mean NOTHING. One day, let's hope and pray, people will realise how meaningless tests are to anyone but the teams themselves.

As for the story, I agree with everyone else who was saying that it's bullocks.

I heard Jenson telling a mate that he thinks 'Lewis is a tt, and Nicole Shirtslinger's fked everyone on the McLaren team anyway.'.

There ya go. News story.

coetzeeh

2,889 posts

265 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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MrKipling43 said:
airportparking said:
Well the next test will be interesting to say the least
No it won't. Tests never are. Well, they are interesting if you're there and can actually observe the cars as they run - see how they look on track, but they times mean NOTHING. One day, let's hope and pray, people will realise how meaningless tests are to anyone but the teams themselves.
The Brawns looked quite handy in testing in 2009?

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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coetzeeh said:
The Brawns looked quite handy in testing in 2009?
Granted, but that wasnt really a normal testing situation,back from the brink of extinction and a last minute bodge to fit the Mercedes engine in meant they probably needed to give it a good workout to learn as much as possible and make sure everything worked, and probably more significantly, no sponsors on the car meant that going slowly wasn't in anyone's best interest.

I don't entirely subscribe to the "can't read ANYTHING from testing" idea but neither do I think that it's a reliable indicator of performance. You can sometimes get a hint that a team is struggling by the way they go about testing and obviously if they keep stopping every 5 minutes, the fact that we've only seen fairly limited flow vis on the Mclaren this year and theyve done decent mileage suggests to me they're reasonably happy with the base car.

Edited by LocoBlade on Monday 20th February 19:30

HustleRussell

26,487 posts

189 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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What is a 'Macca' anyway? I thought it was 2008 tabloid newspaper's nickname for Heather Mills-McCartney?
Does it mean McLaren?

Reardy Mister

13,758 posts

251 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Well as he's back with the Mrs, he probably getting his excuses in early.