Has Fingers Lost it?
Has Fingers Lost it?
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Melman Giraffe

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

247 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Well has he? I think we are seeing the real Vettel now without a massive car advantage!

superkartracer

8,959 posts

251 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Yep he's st

TerzoNeil

335 posts

232 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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read the topic

was thinking safe cracker at first, then sussed it was seb

dont think the red bull is that quick compared to last 2 years

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

203 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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No I don't think so. RB is not that fast this year and SB is not extracting as much from the car as Webber... F1 is so much about the car and I still reckon given a decent car that he can set up to his style, he would continue to blow away the competition (inc. his team mate).

SRT77

710 posts

247 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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VolvoT5 said:
No I don't think so. RB is not that fast this year and SB is not extracting as much from the car as Webber... F1 is so much about the car and I still reckon given a decent car that he can set up to his style, he would continue to blow away the competition (inc. his team mate).
Agree it's so much about the car these days, however much of the Schumi bashing over the last couple of seasons suggested that with his ability he should have been able to extract more from a not so good car.

F1 is so fickle, a few months back most pundits reckoned Vettel would go on to beat Schumi's tally of championships - which could still happen.
Even Massa might come good again.

Hunky Dory

1,093 posts

234 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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superkartracer said:
Yep he's st
I agree. Today's performance in qualifying clearly shows him up as being the untalented lucky driver we all thought he was over the last few seasons.

He's past it and I'm sure Massa will be in his RB seat before the end of the year.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

203 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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SRT77 said:
Agree it's so much about the car these days, however much of the Schumi bashing over the last couple of seasons suggested that with his ability he should have been able to extract more from a not so good car.

F1 is so fickle, a few months back most pundits reckoned Vettel would go on to beat Schumi's tally of championships - which could still happen.
Even Massa might come good again.
Yeah..... thing is though, how many drivers really out peform or 'extract more' from a bad car on a consistent basis? - I can only think of Alonso who falls into that category, and even then you could just argue he finds himself in the right place at the right time; his team mate being so weak he is always going to look good in comparison.

IMO if all the drivers were in identical cars there would be very little in it, although personally I would look to Seb, Lewis and Kimi for outright pace with Alonso and Button being more consistent allrounders. Webber isn't in the same league, he is just on a high partly caused by a car that suits his style and partly because his team mate is (strangely) on a low.



superkartracer

8,959 posts

251 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Hunky Dory said:
I agree. Today's performance in qualifying clearly shows him up as being the untalented lucky driver we all thought he was over the last few seasons.

He's past it and I'm sure Massa will be in his RB seat before the end of the year.
hehe

CocoUK

1,065 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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superkartracer said:
Hunky Dory said:
I agree. Today's performance in qualifying clearly shows him up as being the untalented lucky driver we all thought he was over the last few seasons.

He's past it and I'm sure Massa will be in his RB seat before the end of the year.
hehe
+1 smile

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

191 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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The same way Hamilton lost it when the McLaren was st?

Or alonso when he was at McLaren?

Or button when he was with Honda?

Put any of the top 10 drivers in F1 in a car they feel comfortable in and every one of them will dominate. The fact is the red bull isn't to his liking.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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What he wanted to do was drive a bit faster.

TerzoNeil

335 posts

232 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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has the talent bag burst for the weekend

dont see if the car will pick up at race pace on sunday

SRT77

710 posts

247 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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MrMagoo said:
The same way Hamilton lost it when the McLaren was st?

Or alonso when he was at McLaren?

Or button when he was with Honda?

Put any of the top 10 drivers in F1 in a car they feel comfortable in and every one of them will dominate. The fact is the red bull isn't to his liking.
As Martin Brundle said today - there are only 24 F1 drivers in a world population of over 7 billion. They are all good, lucky bds.

Hunky Dory

1,093 posts

234 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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SRT77 said:
As Martin Brundle said today - there are only 24 F1 drivers in a world population of over 7 billion. They are all good, lucky bds.
Oh God, did he roll that load of old bks out again?
Of course the guys on the grid are the pinnacle of driver talent and that is the only reason they are in F1 ahead of the other "7 Billion" potential applicants rolleyes

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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fking hell, do you write for the BBC?

I've been without internet for 2 weeks and I'm enjoying F1 a lot more by not reading any news or forums on the subject. I'm going to stick to that now that I have it back and just enjoy it.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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I can't tell if this thread is serious.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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laughlaughlaugh


superkartracer

8,959 posts

251 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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Ron should sack him

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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superkartracer said:
Ron should sack him
Had to have a go at making one of these... biggrin


hotmelt

861 posts

202 months

Saturday 14th April 2012
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I allways regarded him as not being in the same class as Hamilton, Schumacher, Alonso.. He is not natural racer, overtakes clumsily too.