Just how good is Loeb?
Just how good is Loeb?
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmOFvJBn488
He won both 911 races.

The man is of immense talent, can you say he might be in the top 5 drivers of all time?
I'm trying to think of faults with him and I can only think of that he is French...not sure that can really be classed as a fault.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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A lot of PH 'experts' like to say he never had any real challenge in WRC, but in his early years he beat most/all of the big names. He also tested a GP2 car a while ago and was only two tenths slower than his team-mate and did quite well in an LMP car too.

He's one of the best imo.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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He has had very good challengers in WRC, he just beat them so well it makes them look bad!
Shame he is getting on a bit now, would love to see him have a season in F1.

DanDC5

19,991 posts

196 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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Without a doubt one of best in any class, he has a stupid amount of natural talent.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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I remember when I first went to see the WRC and his line and speed was so much smoother and greater through the corners compared to everyone elses.

mattikake

5,110 posts

228 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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Yeah I was watchin Pau too. He's a bit like Stirling Moss, brilliant in anything that has wheels, except rather than his famed sport being F1, it's WRC.

He needs an F1 seat before he's too old. Replace Massa. Done deal.

Le TVR

3,097 posts

280 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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He's done many tests in F1 cars and has impressed many.

Except the FIA who wouldn't grant him a super licence.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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He is 38 so I can't see him going to F1 now, sadly. I think we have two more years of him in WRC before he lets someone else win and retire.

Saying that Ken Block is still going strong going..

ArnageWRC

2,331 posts

188 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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One of the all time greats of Motorsport - and the Greatest at the moment!
Not afraid to try other disciplines; LMP1 2nd at Le Mans in a Pescarolo-Judd, GT's etc was quick in a F1 test. I actually think this might be his last year in the WRC. He has his Sportscar team, and the Porsche GT3 cars - I think that's were his future lies; driving cars with power & RWD.

hornet

6,333 posts

279 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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Get him over to NASCAR - be fascinating to see how he'd handle the ovals.

DanDC5

19,991 posts

196 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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It does seem like you can do Sportscar racing for longer than most other disciplines. And like you said he went well at Le Mans. I'd be very surprised if that's not where he goes after the WRC.

robmlufc

5,229 posts

215 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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He has his own team that is building up to Le Mans

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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hornet said:
Get him over to NASCAR - be fascinating to see how he'd handle the ovals.
Sideways?

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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How good is Loeb? Bloody awesome I and many others would say!

His corner entry speed is rediculous and he manages to carry it all the way through fairly straight like nobody else can! His consistancy is amazing too and he seems to be able to process so much more information and keep calm....well unless Ogier is in the team that is wink

Its just a shame that since Gronholm retired the oposition has been pretty poor and self distructed at any rare chances the rally GOAT has given them!

Murph7355

41,954 posts

285 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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PSBuckshot said:
...not sure that can really be classed as a fault.
You were doing so well until then.

LordHaveMurci

12,336 posts

198 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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Murph7355 said:
PSBuckshot said:
...not sure that can really be classed as a fault.
You were doing so well until then.
hehe

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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Le TVR said:
He's done many tests in F1 cars and has impressed many.

Except the FIA who wouldn't grant him a super licence.
Not sure that that is as big an issue as some would have you believe. Sure he might need to do a few ‘other’ races before they will hand one over but it certainly isn’t a deal breaker.

Leob chose to stay in WRC a number of years ago when, like Rossi, it was clear that he was all but there in terms of pace but on personal analysis chose not to pursue it any further as they were still the best in the business at their sport and were not ready to be mid fielders until they got the right drive and craft just to say “I am a F1 driver”. I have HUGE respect for both of them for that because to those that really matter F1 is not the only game in town. Just look at the DTM and lat me know how well the ex F1 stars have done there...

A lot knock him for not having perhaps the most glittering of opposition all the time. I also think that MSC had a very easy time of it (comparatively) during a number of his championship years but there is a point at which you have to say fair play, they may have had some easy days but not all of them were...

How good is he? Apples and Pears I’m afraid but if you were to ask me to pick an all rounder to do an endurance race, a rally and an F1 race I would pick Leob over any other current driver for my team without a second thought. More difficult would be who would be the next best choice, and I’m not sure it wouldn’t be a Finnish chap...

John D.

20,933 posts

238 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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Was he not a world class gymnast before he decided to try rallying? The mans a machine!

Great talent but he has made rallying incredibly dull with his dominance. Similar to Schumi of course.

stu1984

823 posts

209 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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He is in a different class imo. Although it is very difficult to say who the current 'best driver/racer' is I believe it would very difficult to argue against this man being the top contender - shame he's french smile (I'm only envious of his talent and the fact that he is not British wink )

fatboy69

9,424 posts

216 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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He has won 8 or 9 titles on the trot, i cant remember the exact number, which makes him a legend in my opinion. He has trounced the opposition & there is no one who can touch hm at the moment.

How would he cope with F1? Easy. He would be a winner within a couple of GP's - just a pity that he won't get the opportunity in these days of strictly 2 car teams.

How good would it be to see him in a third Red Bull? Reckon he would have the measure of the finger in no time.

We can only try to imagine how quick he would be in an F1 car.

Edited by fatboy69 on Monday 14th May 18:51