The Circuits Finally Act - FOPA
The Circuits Finally Act - FOPA
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Eric Mc

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125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Is this potentially the biggest event in Formula 1 for decades?

http://www.pitpass.com/46550-Australian-Grand-Prix...

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Interesting read, thank you for posting.

Eric Mc

Original Poster:

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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It's no doubt early days for something like this and it could all come to nought.

But I do think that the time is now right for the circuits to speak with a unified voice and prevent themselves from being put on a path to self detsruction - which is where so many of them have been pushed in their efforts to appease BE and CVC.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Not sure it follows that one circuit is not in competition with another, BCE can still play one off against another brazil complaining about a fee, offer It to Argentina, etc. he has control of a finite resource, and seems to play poker very well. There'll always be someone who wants a vanity GP to showcase something.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Bernard doesn't need to play one off against the other - I assume he'll be a member since he put Circuit Paul Ricard (which he owns) on the calendar. He may look stupid, but he isn't.

-edit-

Shame really, I liked the Australian GP...

ArnageWRC

2,331 posts

188 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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If the circuits can't really afford to hold F1 races, is it really worth bankrupting themselves all for one race? Look at both Hockenheim & Nurburgring sharing because they can't afford to hold it every year. Plus, Hockenheim spent millions 'butchering' the old track - and all for F1. Was it worth it?

There's plenty of other series out there to host, and without the ridiculous fees....

Crafty_

14,062 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Wont make a shred of difference. The teams thought they'd take on Bernie and unite against issues in the concorde agreement and what happened ? He picked away at them one at a time by offering deals, half of them leave FOTA and the other half just go with Bernie anyway.

Bernie will play their game and then talk to promoter A, saying that he's already in talks with promoter B and they are accepting a deal for £Y, but as promoter A is such a good chap he can have a deal for £X. Then he tells promoter B that A has accepted £X and £Y is a great deal for them.. etc etc.

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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ArnageWRC said:
If the circuits can't really afford to hold F1 races, is it really worth bankrupting themselves all for one race? Look at both Hockenheim & Nurburgring sharing because they can't afford to hold it every year. Plus, Hockenheim spent millions 'butchering' the old track - and all for F1. Was it worth it?

There's plenty of other series out there to host, and without the ridiculous fees....
Small point, Hockenheim was butchered for the greens, not for F1.

Eric Mc

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125,606 posts

294 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Cover rtory.

It Bernie who stipulated the changes.

Look what happened to Austria.

ArnageWRC

2,331 posts

188 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Life Saab Itch said:
Small point, Hockenheim was butchered for the greens, not for F1.
Yes, eventually.
The German GP was over 45 laps, Bernie wasn't happy with this, so wanted/demanded they do something. Tilke designed a new modern track, which involved chopping down thousands of trees - of which the greens weren't impressed. So the old track was dug up and left for nature to reclaim.

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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ArnageWRC said:
Yes, eventually.
The German GP was over 45 laps, Bernie wasn't happy with this, so wanted/demanded they do something. Tilke designed a new modern track, which involved chopping down thousands of trees - of which the greens weren't impressed. So the old track was dug up and left for nature to reclaim.
Do they not have listed structures in Germany?

Eric Mc

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125,606 posts

294 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Hockenheim wasn't one of them, obviously.

The butchery of Hockenheim and the Osterreichring were two of Bernie's great crimes against F1.

Derek Smith

49,670 posts

277 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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An interesting move. Can't help thinking that it might not do a lot of good for Ecclestone's floatation. I wonder if it will be as easily influenced as FOTA was to money being flashed around.

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

253 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Hockenheim wasn't one of them, obviously.

The butchery of Hockenheim and the Osterreichring were two of Bernie's great crimes against Motorsport.
EFA

Eric Mc

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125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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I considered using "motorsport" rather than "F1".

ArnageWRC

2,331 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I considered using "motorsport" rather than "F1".
For most of the media & Joe Public Motorsport=F1..... Of course, on here we know that isn't the case.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 14th June 2012
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And that is why I used the term "F1".