Drivers techniques.
Drivers techniques.
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dinkel

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27,770 posts

287 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dkSu3Au7XI

Why doesn't Reto left foot brake here?

drakart

1,759 posts

239 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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He ought to use lfb on the little dabs of brake but looks like he has to heel and toe for the downshifts which is easier done the way he does it. I guess he is comfortable the way he does it though!

dinkel

Original Poster:

27,770 posts

287 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Yeah as it does.

But doesn't a seq. box work without a left foot?

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

256 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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I would guess it's a confidence / feel thing - he may find it difficult to keep the necessary feel in the left foot when switching between clutch and brake.

I seem to remember an F1 driver having difficulty adapting to left foot braking in the not too distant past - got a feeling it was either Barrichello or Alesi, maybe Herbert.

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

256 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Looks like he uses the clutch when going down through the gears but not up.

emicen

9,229 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Mechanical sympathy.

Clutching a sequential on the way down is nicer to it, ditto lifting the throttle slightly on upshifts.

HarryFlatters

4,203 posts

241 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Mr_Thyroid said:
I seem to remember an F1 driver having difficulty adapting to left foot braking in the not too distant past - got a feeling it was either Barrichello or Alesi, maybe Herbert.
Damon Hill IIRC.

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

221 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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don't think so, barrichello found it hard to adapt, possibly JH had issue due to old accidents too?

joewilliams

2,004 posts

230 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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HarryFlatters said:
Mr_Thyroid said:
I seem to remember an F1 driver having difficulty adapting to left foot braking in the not too distant past - got a feeling it was either Barrichello or Alesi, maybe Herbert.
Damon Hill IIRC.
I seem to remember DH retaining a clutch pedal whilst at Williams when others had moved it to a paddle.

Celestion84

29 posts

220 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Dario Franchitti had to modify his new Dallara DW12 this year because he still uses his right foot to brake. Horses for courses I suppose.

http://www.indycar.com/en/News/2012/March/Franchitti-moves-to-right-of-center

Adam205

822 posts

211 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Looks like he uses the clutch when going down through the gears but not up.
Standard practice with a sequential dog box.

Crafty_

14,062 posts

229 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Mr_Thyroid said:
I would guess it's a confidence / feel thing - he may find it difficult to keep the necessary feel in the left foot when switching between clutch and brake.

I seem to remember an F1 driver having difficulty adapting to left foot braking in the not too distant past - got a feeling it was either Barrichello or Alesi, maybe Herbert.
Rubens. He finally did make the transition whilst at Williams I believe.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

175 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Always heard seq box need clutch on the way down, but like someone said, it seems to be for the cars sake. There is a vid on youtube of some one in a GT3 slamming down 4 gears in about 2 seconds!

Adam205

822 posts

211 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Crafty_ said:
Rubens. He finally did make the transition whilst at Williams I believe.
He always wanted the ability to right foot brake right up to his last season.

Adam205

822 posts

211 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Fantuzzi said:
Always heard seq box need clutch on the way down, but like someone said, it seems to be for the cars sake. There is a vid on youtube of some one in a GT3 slamming down 4 gears in about 2 seconds!
I sometimes don't use the clutch on downshifts when there isn't much time or I need a find I need a downshift mid corner. Its hard on the dogs though as they have to accelerate the engine to match road speed. It works ok on little bike engines but if you do it on something with a big high inertia engine you'd probably end up locking the wheel quite a lot.

Slagathore

6,224 posts

221 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Fantuzzi said:
Always heard seq box need clutch on the way down, but like someone said, it seems to be for the cars sake. There is a vid on youtube of some one in a GT3 slamming down 4 gears in about 2 seconds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3hrpkHoyrM&fea...

That one?

Saw it a while back and sounded familiar to what you descibed.

So want to try a sequential box at some point!

dinkel

Original Poster:

27,770 posts

287 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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Holy Mother:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEqOGejlrw

Colin McRea about LFB.

andygo

7,390 posts

284 months

Saturday 16th June 2012
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My sons and i tend not to use the clutch much in our formula ford. I have to say it feels pretty natural tbh. But strange really when I think about it as its not like it needs much thought, even when I haven't driven it for 6 months..

And yet if you drive a different road car, it seems to take miles to suss things out.

dinkel

Original Poster:

27,770 posts

287 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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http://jalopnik.com/5917756/how-to-carve-the-perfe...

It's a beginning. And lots of practise.

My favourite 80 mph bend of the moment:



Elevation and merging traffic (D, E) making this a treat.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st June 2012
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Are you clutch kicking, shift locking, handbraking or getting on the power to kick the back out at D?