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macgtech

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997 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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What is the score with the night qualifying? Does the time from it count, or is it only the time from day qualifying that counts, or the best from the two sessions?

Steve Britcar

237 posts

242 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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It's to "qualify" the drivers for night racing - you must do 3 practice laps in the dark to be able to race in the dark. The Saturday session will set the grid.

macgtech

Original Poster:

997 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Steve Britcar said:
It's to "qualify" the drivers for night racing - you must do 3 practice laps in the dark to be able to race in the dark. The Saturday session will set the grid.
Great, thanks for clarifying Steve

jurbie

2,440 posts

230 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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The entry list looks really good with the MJC Ferrari and the Scott and Wilkins Viper making very welcome returns. Hopefully the Praga will turn up as well so I'm really looking forward to this.

http://www.britcar24hr.co.uk/newsletter/WebsiteUpl...

kodos

242 posts

180 months

Thursday 25th October 2012
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I will be here watching will the cars be as quiet as they were at silverstone?

Britcar David

386 posts

221 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Louder than Silverstone.

Silverstone noise limit was 102db, Donington as part of the Championship will be 105db, so effectively twice the energy involved.

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Looking forward to this weekend - it feels like ages since we drove the SEAT. See you at the weekend.

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

269 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Im back in the Marcos and having not driven it for 5 months it should be fun. Last time at Donny, the buggers left me out on slicks in the lashing rain for 40 mins.....

hazy

1,174 posts

297 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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blackiepaul said:
Looking forward to this weekend - it feels like ages since we drove the SEAT. See you at the weekend.
missed you too honey biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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smilesmilesmilesmile

hazy said:
missed you too honey biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Monday 29th October 2012
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Obiwonkeyblokey said:
Im back in the Marcos and having not driven it for 5 months it should be fun. Last time at Donny, the buggers left me out on slicks in the lashing rain for 40 mins.....
i hope its a bit warmer for you than it was at silverstone at the weekend. slicks that couldnt get the heatin and a tuscan minus even its normal pityful aero was urm interesting and mainly sideways!

have fun

G

gtfan

12 posts

190 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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just sat down to watch the live timings as cant be at this race and its not bloody working!!

Stuart Thompson

581 posts

192 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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Working ok for me

Stevie Borowik

281 posts

212 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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yeah the timing did go funny for me for around and hour. was a fantastic race but a bit chilly at the end.

kodos

242 posts

180 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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Great day today and some great racing.

Fantastic watching the cars in the night time loved the Dodge Viper.

Couple of observations it needs to be louder! And if it was quieter than this at the 24hrs it has pretty much helped me decide i wouldn't go to the 24hr race.

Also just a spectator view as well, not all cars had visible race numbers.

All in great despite how freezing it was

AndyPhoenix

826 posts

313 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Was a very good race. Had a great view from my marshals post.

Ref post above regarding noise. Cars do not have to be loud to sound good, imho some are just loud for the sake of it - not aimed at anyone in Britcar but from my trackside experience and certain NGTC in the BTCC. For example the No18 Aston Martin wasn't loud but sounded fantastic (before it started dragging it's undertray on the ground).

Illuminated numbers worked v well on most cars, with only a few not working but most cars were still easily identifiable by different front/rear lights in the dark.

Felt v sorry for the no44 Ginetta in Production who went off in the wet morning qualifying into the tyre wall, was quite a big hit but with suprisingly little damage to the car, only just missed the concrete wall. Pleased to see the car back out for the race later in the day.

Great to see such a variety of cars in this series. Already looking forward to 2013.


Steve Britcar

237 posts

242 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Quick Report
Britcar MSA British Endurance Championship
Donington, 3rd November

The old firm of Witt Gamski, Keith Robinson and John Gaw took the MJC Ferrari 430 to a popular win in the darkness on Saturday night, accompanied by a myriad impromptu firework displays that lit the Leicestershire skyline. They had battled hard in the opening and closing hours of the race with outgoing BEC Champions Aaron Scott and Craig Wilkins, in the GT3 Racing Dodge Viper. Equal on pace, the thirst of the Viper’s 8.3 litre mill necessitated a further fuel stop, which stymied their chances of victory.

The Bullrun squad of Richard Adams, David Green and Martin Byford sealed the overall 2012 British Endurance Championship, ironically after the first race in which the Lotus Evora had mechanical issues, a cracked throttle body delaying them for around 20 laps; they finished second in the Class 3 points to the Field/Hart Tracktorque Chevron GR8, which had given them a run for their money in the race, whilst a notable performance from Ian Loggie/ Chris Jones in the Parker Porsche 997 was achieved in difficult circumstances.

The early running was made by Richard Abra in the Barwell Aston Martin Vantage, who sped away from Javier Morcillo’s Mosler, whilst behind this pair the pack rose and fell as tyres responded in differing ways to the desperately cold conditions. A short, sharp shower of freezing rain caught out the leaders after the first round of pit stops, Cintrano’s Mosler and Poole’s Aston and both ending up in the Redgate gravel after being caught out by the slippery track. The Aston made a sensational comeback the fourth place, but the Mosler’s issues took longer to rectify, though Morcillo was flying towards the end.

Class 2 went to the lone-running Topcats Marcos of O’Neill/Fletcher/Gilbert , whilst there were some stunning Class 4 performances from class winners Flick Haigh/Ryan Ratcliffe in the Fauldsport Ginetta G55, and the two RJN Nissan 370z GT Academy contenders, American Dan Mitchell being particularly impressive. Ending on a high note, Peter and Matt Smith, aided by Dan Eagling, had their best result of the season in the Redgate/Virgo Ginetta G55, bagging the top class points.

Full report to follow on the Britcar website and Dailysportscar in a couple of days. Reports will appear on The Checkered Flag and Racing Exposure too.

STEVE WOOD


Steve Britcar

237 posts

242 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Quick Report
Britcar Production Cup Championship
Donington, 3rd November

Craig Davies and Adam Jones in the Sub Zero Wolf Seat Supercopa took a convincing win in the 90-minute race, which started in damp and slippery conditions. The point at which to change the tyres was crucial in this race; Michael Symons admitted to going over too early in his BMW E36, and finished third overall, whilst Guy Povey started on slicks and went backwards down the order, atoned by a stunning recovery for the E46 Graham Coomes in the second half of the race. Early leads by both Intersport BMWs could not be sustained, the Hayes/Radcliffe car retiring after a clash with a Mini, and the Gibson/Clarke machine succumbing to diff failure.

BTCC star Andrew Jordan had what he described as his “best race of the year”, capitalising on Nigel Ainge’s career-best opening stint in the Eurotech Integra; he held the overall lead for a while, but had to settle for Class 2 honours, ahead of the Breeze/Howard Ginetta G40, which had mixed it with the big boys too, and the Bailye/Black (Robson/Jerome) Seat, which had caused the Topcats team an all-nighter due to an engine failure in Friday testing.

The big comeback was from the Piranha Ginetta G40 – fixed in record time after a big qualifying shunt, plus the late recovery to the pits, Ryan Ratcliffe and Simon Mason seized the Class 3 win ahead of the struggling Cockill brothers, who suffered late-race gearbox problems in their Civic after a race-long class lead.

Full report to follow.

STEVE WOOD

hazy

1,174 posts

297 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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kodos said:
Couple of observations it needs to be louder! And if it was quieter than this at the 24hrs it has pretty much helped me decide i wouldn't go to the 24hr race.
Myself and Steve Wood were discussing this at Donny, I feel that the noise is what alot of spectators come for, Steve didnt agree with me. Ultimately noise has already killed the Britcar 24 unfortunately. If Im spectating, the louder the better!! smile

Stuart Thompson

581 posts

192 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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The most important thing for me is that I get to watch your fabulous cars racing. Yes the sound is important but given the choice I would rather have quiet cars over no cars.