Bernie and Luca Di Montezemolo - Handbags at ten paces...
Discussion
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20579360

Di Montezemolo said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
Bernie said:
The one thing he is correct about is my age - there is no doubt about that. I can't do anything about that. I'm 82 years old and that's how it is.
I suppose it's the same sort of thing that's happened to him recently in politics, where people have been quite rude about him. He says he doesn't remember what he says very often. Luca is not as old as me. I'm sure in his case it is nothing to do with his age because he's always been the same. At least he's consistent. God knows what's going to happen when he's 82.
No, Luca is a lovely guy, I'm probably as a big a supporter of him as anybody. I am a big admirer of Luca's and I'm sorry for all the trouble he's had with politics recently. He should never have got involved in the first place.
I suppose it's the same sort of thing that's happened to him recently in politics, where people have been quite rude about him. He says he doesn't remember what he says very often. Luca is not as old as me. I'm sure in his case it is nothing to do with his age because he's always been the same. At least he's consistent. God knows what's going to happen when he's 82.
No, Luca is a lovely guy, I'm probably as a big a supporter of him as anybody. I am a big admirer of Luca's and I'm sorry for all the trouble he's had with politics recently. He should never have got involved in the first place.

The FIA's AGM is about to start and the main point of interest will be who comes out on top. The teams, whilst there is no FOCA, seem to be more or less united on some aspects. Todt is marginalised - he has no money - so is of little consequence.
However, this little spat pre the meeting is quite unusual. As Ecclestone suggests, why wasn't this all done 'behind closed doors'? That is better put as 'why wasn't this done as normal'. A public spat is hardly what F1 is known for.
There are tough times ahead regarding the negotiations on the new forumla. I'm with Luca on the point of less aerodynamics.
However, this little spat pre the meeting is quite unusual. As Ecclestone suggests, why wasn't this all done 'behind closed doors'? That is better put as 'why wasn't this done as normal'. A public spat is hardly what F1 is known for.
There are tough times ahead regarding the negotiations on the new forumla. I'm with Luca on the point of less aerodynamics.
Strange indeed as both BCE & LDM make Macchiavelli seem amateurish at times. Neither opens their gob without reason.
+ another 1 for less aero dependancy/trickery. Oh and the exhaust should exit at the rearmost part of the car with zero effect on a wing/gurney/upturn/downturn/slot/hole/etc.
+ another 1 for less aero dependancy/trickery. Oh and the exhaust should exit at the rearmost part of the car with zero effect on a wing/gurney/upturn/downturn/slot/hole/etc.
Edited by tonytifoso on Tuesday 4th December 10:08
65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.EFA

FourWheelDrift said:
65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.EFA

Nick1point9 said:
tonytifoso said:
+ another 1 for less aero dependancy/trickery. Oh and the exhaust should exit at the rearmost part of the car with zero effect on a wing/gurney/upturn/downturn/slot/hole/etc.
Wave goodbye to 20bhp...Look at MotoGP, it's a shadow of its former self. Moto 2 & 3 is where the "Racing" is and is a truly enjoyable spectacle for us petrolheads. If restructuring the rules to make F1 cars a bit less like flightless planes and more like a platform which enables the "drivers"( Alonso, Hamilton, Raikkonen, et al) to show their skills off to the maximum entertainment of us, the paying fans, bring it on.
The problem is that no one is pushing for spectacle. The most influential teams want to ensure that their superiority remains, so aero, the big gap, remains. Todt has no say and Ecclestone's normal concern for the spectator will, if anything, reduce now that he's trying to sell the sport.
Scuffers said:
FourWheelDrift said:
65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.EFA

DJRC said:
Scuffers said:
FourWheelDrift said:
65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.EFA

that kind of makes an interesting comparison with Mr Berlusconi....
Scuffers said:
DJRC said:
Scuffers said:
FourWheelDrift said:
65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.EFA

that kind of makes an interesting comparison with Mr Berlusconi....
He probably holds more power than anybody in Italy outside of Sergio.
Unless you were under some kind of mistaken illusion that the nominal national politicians are in power in Italy? But then I presume you wouldnt be that daft to think that...
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