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Is anyone else talking about this?
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/04/13/merc...
The US coverage highlighted it yesterday: apparently the Mercedes suspension system 'passively' changes its settings as the car is driven.
Sounds like Brawn has found another way around the rules.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/04/13/merc...
The US coverage highlighted it yesterday: apparently the Mercedes suspension system 'passively' changes its settings as the car is driven.
Sounds like Brawn has found another way around the rules.
Just found this:
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2013/894/10...
The way it was presented on the NBC coverage made it sounds like it was a new thing!
Still, it does sound like a means to changes suspension bias which I would have thought was illegal
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2013/894/10...
The way it was presented on the NBC coverage made it sounds like it was a new thing!
Still, it does sound like a means to changes suspension bias which I would have thought was illegal
fatbutt said:
Is anyone else talking about this?
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/04/13/merc...
The US coverage highlighted it yesterday: apparently the Mercedes suspension system 'passively' changes its settings as the car is driven.
Sounds like Brawn has found another way around the rules.
What rules is he getting around then? And as MB have had this system for maybe two years, why should the other teams start worrying about it now, even presuming they don't have their own versions, which several certainly do?http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/04/13/merc...
The US coverage highlighted it yesterday: apparently the Mercedes suspension system 'passively' changes its settings as the car is driven.
Sounds like Brawn has found another way around the rules.
The active suspension rule. Ok, so there is a subtle difference between 'active' and 'passive' but its still changing the suspension mid race which is against the rules.
Assuming Mercedes do well this season, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets a lot of coverage. No-one will kick up a fuss if a new system doesn't work but when a team starts to do well with something others either haven't got or can't get to work, the dummy spitting starts...
Assuming Mercedes do well this season, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets a lot of coverage. No-one will kick up a fuss if a new system doesn't work but when a team starts to do well with something others either haven't got or can't get to work, the dummy spitting starts...
fatbutt said:
The active suspension rule. Ok, so there is a subtle difference between 'active' and 'passive' but its still changing the suspension mid race which is against the rules.
Assuming Mercedes do well this season, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets a lot of coverage. No-one will kick up a fuss if a new system doesn't work but when a team starts to do well with something others either haven't got or can't get to work, the dummy spitting starts...
No, it doesn't 'change the suspension mid race'. And as said, several teams have it in one form or another, and have had for some time.Assuming Mercedes do well this season, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets a lot of coverage. No-one will kick up a fuss if a new system doesn't work but when a team starts to do well with something others either haven't got or can't get to work, the dummy spitting starts...
fatbutt said:
The active suspension rule. Ok, so there is a subtle difference between 'active' and 'passive' but its still changing the suspension mid race which is against the rules.
From the system's name and description (and the fact that it's hydraulic), I'd speculate that this is simply a means of being able to both balance ride height and alter the bias of damping roll resistance front:rear, in much the same way that you can alter the brake bias, and thereby adjust transient understeer/oversteer characteristics.In other words, it's a self-levelling system (like old Citroens) combined with a sophisticated way of being able to give another couple of clicks on your adjustable dampers, on the move and without grovelling about on your knees with a stubby screwdriver.
It's a long way from being 'active suspension'...
I haven't seen anyone mention the sparks that were coming off the floor of Kimi's Lotus towards the end of the first race either.
It's pretty obvious that they're all trying to compensate for the fuel load coming off during the race, remember, it's only cheating when/if you get caught.
It's pretty obvious that they're all trying to compensate for the fuel load coming off during the race, remember, it's only cheating when/if you get caught.
fatbutt said:
Is anyone else talking about this?
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/04/13/merc...
The US coverage highlighted it yesterday: apparently the Mercedes suspension system 'passively' changes its settings as the car is driven.
Sounds like Brawn has found another way around the rules.
I love Brawn.http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/04/13/merc...
The US coverage highlighted it yesterday: apparently the Mercedes suspension system 'passively' changes its settings as the car is driven.
Sounds like Brawn has found another way around the rules.
456lbft said:
I haven't seen anyone mention the sparks that were coming off the floor of Kimi's Lotus towards the end of the first race either.
It's pretty obvious that they're all trying to compensate for the fuel load coming off during the race, remember, it's only cheating when/if you get caught.
Did notice that the lotus was sparking quite impressively in Aus... interesting :-) It's pretty obvious that they're all trying to compensate for the fuel load coming off during the race, remember, it's only cheating when/if you get caught.
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