RE: Wales Rally GB moves north
RE: Wales Rally GB moves north
Thursday 25th April 2013

Wales Rally GB moves north

North Wales relocation ends 13-year run for Cardiff base



Wales Rally GB will this year ‘swap ends’ as it moves from its long-time base in Cardiff to a new home further north.

Cardiff will no longer be the rally's base
Cardiff will no longer be the rally's base
The 2013 event will now feature a ceremonial start in Conwy, and finish in Llandudno, with the rally’s headquarters and main service park to be based at a new site alongside Toyota’s engine plant in Flintshire. It won't be the first time the rally's visited Llandudno, but the move will end 13 years spent with Cardiff as the event's base, and comes as organisers look to increase spectator and entrant numbers after falling numbers in recent years. 2012’s event, in fact, featured one of the lowest-ever entries, both of the season and in the event’s history.

International Motor Sports, the organiser of the rally, hopes that moving its base closer to more of the UK’s larger cities – Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham among them – will increase the number of visitors, and in turn, the number of participants. Other moves aimed at improving the rally’s appeal will include the reintroduction of night stages and the addition of family-friendly spectator stages. A wider range of tickets at lower prices will also be introduced, with a radically altered pricing structure, details of which have yet to be released.

The rally has visited Llandudno before
The rally has visited Llandudno before
The new route has also yet to be announced, though IMS promises that it’ll be more compact, hopefully allowing spectators to move more freely between stages. It also adds that the majority of the timed Special Stages will be set in the forests, harking back to Welsh rallies of old, and hopefully recreating the same sorts of scenes we tried to a month or two back. Fingers crossed they’ve also ordered extra quantities of fog, mist, rain, snow and mud, to keep the true, filthy glory of the WRC’s British round alive and well. And with Forces motorsport charities Mission Motorsport and Race2Recovery both getting involved with the British rallying scene recently, who knows – there might even more reason to go along and cheer.

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Macd355

Original Poster:

320 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Hopefully it will keep moving north and we'll get Kielder back soon.

chevronb37

6,472 posts

215 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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The in-laws live 5 mins from Llandudno. This is awesome news!

chevronb37

6,472 posts

215 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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The in-laws live 5 mins from Llandudno. This is awesome news!

brough74

130 posts

190 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Bring it back to the proper north, cumbria and northumbria.

Ive not been to it since it was last in these locations, too far for us to travel.

Why does everyone in London etc think north is birmingham etc

Could be based in newcastle or carlisle

Andy ap

1,147 posts

201 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Excellent news. Will be much easier and cheaper for me to go and see it now. Who knows i may even be able to get the wife to come along too.

MarvinManUK

764 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Brilliant news. Now it's only 40 minutes drive away!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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A step in the right direction, but still a mere shadow of the old days of the RAC Rally.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Inb4 usual "Rallying is boring, I'm not interested in this which is why I clicked on the article, read it then bothered to comment" and "bring back group b" garbage.

I'm glad they've moved, going to the same stages every year kind of turns it into a sprint/hillclimb on dirt.

7DWM

24 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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mybrainhurts said:
A step in the right direction, but still a mere shadow of the old days of the RAC Rally.
Very true, rallying has lost a lot of interest since they changed it from an endurance to a sprint format.
At least this makes sense for the rally as it is today. The last couple of years the cars have been having to drive 2-3 hours just to get back to base! Time better spent actually rallying.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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EDLT said:
Inb4 usual "Rallying is boring, I'm not interested in this which is why I clicked on the article, read it then bothered to comment" and "bring back group b" garbage.
Congratulations, well done...

BlackpoolRock

1,183 posts

181 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Not good news for me I live in Reading, Cardiff and mid Wales was just about doable in a day. frown

Steve vRS

5,391 posts

270 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Brilliant as I'm close to Warrington so only 1 1/2 hrs drive!

I'll take my lad, hopefully to a special stage and then into a night forest stage, just like my dad took me to Grisdale in the early 80's.

Steve

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Do they still do night forests? Thought they'd wimped out of that kind of thing...

rob.e

2,863 posts

307 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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chevronb37 said:
The in-laws live 5 mins from Llandudno. This is awesome news!
Yep, mine are in Llandudno too - in fact you can almost see their flat in that last pic..!


Mr.Jimbo

2,084 posts

212 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Sounds good. The entry list was pretty fking wk last year to be fair so glad the organisers have noticed. The start in Llandudno was good last year though, if a bit out of the way, I'm just annoyed they didn't run the Great Orme as in 2011 (I had to miss that)

Can't wait. Its a good event and we still always have a great time, last year included.

Johnny 89

836 posts

181 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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I may have missed it, but when does this take place?

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Johnny 89 said:
I may have missed it, but when does this take place?
November IIRC.

I'm hoping to go this year. It'll have been 20 years (always followed it on telly though).

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

277 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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mybrainhurts said:
A step in the right direction, but still a mere shadow of the old days of the RAC Rally.
Yep plenty of the UK still way to far from those stages,but its a step in the right direction.

AllNines

346 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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brough74 said:
Why does everyone in London etc think north is birmingham etc
The rally is sponsored by the Welsh authorities and therefore is in Wales, so heading for Conwy is indeed 'moving north'!

TankRS

2,850 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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while its good new for thousands of people, there are equally as many that are disappointed by this news. myself included.

As I live in South Wales, having the rally based here and Mid Wales has been a blessing for me and other club members in the area.
Since the even moved north over the last 2-3 years it has been increasingly disappointing and baffling.
having the start 3hrs away from where the stages start has been stupid, and if i am to believe much of what I've been told about speccy numbers has added nothing to the event, but has in fact cost some.

now I'm not one of these, 'its not close to me so I wont marshal' type of marshals. I have travelled to Dyfi & Dyfnant for the last 2 WRGB's.
Dyfnant last year was a 27hr day after travelling up the evening before and then manning the stage for both running and driving home again. and I wont lie I was ruined after it!
couple in that with the cost of food & fuel and my total for the weekend came in the region of £250+ . that's money I don't have this year.



This year may be the first I miss for the last decade.
And I don't envy the Stage commanders who are going to be losing more manpower than they did last year.
(the move north didn't encourage motorclubs closer to the event to volunteer last year as they imagined it would, and one stage only just ran with the bare minimum number of marshals and radio cars)


and I was really looking forwards to getting up close to the new Polo WRC too as it looks epic! frown