The Official Canadian GP Thread 2013 ***Spoilers***
The Official Canadian GP Thread 2013 ***Spoilers***
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Grenoble

Original Poster:

59,229 posts

184 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Fri 07 June 2013
Practice 1 15:00 - 16:30
Practice 2 19:00 - 20:30

Sat 08 June 2013
Practice 3 15:00 - 16:00
Qualifying 18:00 - 19:00

Sun 09 June 2013
Race 19:00

Time for a new thread...

I shall await weather and FP1/FP2 before making a call.

But I do hope for some vintage Gilles footage this weekend and that it drowns out the tyre discussion...

vonuber

17,868 posts

194 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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1) joke tyres
2) bring back powerful engines with no aero
3) vettel is a tt
4) horner is a tt
5) grosjean / perez is a liability
6) can we stop with the betting odds please
7) button toys out of pram
8) obligatory alonso driving god comment
9) yeah but equalled him in his rookie year
10) bbc/sky coverage is rubbish

Think that's most covered so we can discuss the race now. Should be a good one.

Galileo

3,147 posts

247 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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I think the Big question of the weekend is; Who is going to hit the Wall of Champions first?

My money is on Vettel.

Grenoble

Original Poster:

59,229 posts

184 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Galileo said:
I think the Big question of the weekend is; Who is going to hit the Wall of Champions first?

My money is on Vettel.
Which driver will, or which (ex) champion will?

Champion: Hamilton
Driver: Maldonado

Whitefly Swatter

1,131 posts

228 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Galileo said:
I think the Big question of the weekend is; Who is going to hit the Wall of Champions first?

My money is on Vettel.
Massa ?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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vonuber said:
1) joke tyres
2) bring back powerful engines with no aero
3) vettel is a tt
4) horner is a tt
5) grosjean / perez is a liability
6) can we stop with the betting odds please
7) button toys out of pram
8) obligatory alonso driving god comment
9) yeah but equalled him in his rookie year
10) bbc/sky coverage is rubbish

Think that's most covered so we can discuss the race now. Should be a good one.
That cover it. Might as well unsubscribe from the thread now.


rallycross

13,737 posts

266 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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I hope these tyre failures do not result in a high speed crash similar to the brake failure crash that broke poor Olivier Panis' legs.

MartynVRS

1,926 posts

239 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Don't think any have "failed". Some have punctured and fallen apart but with 700+ bhp spinning through them it's understandable

McClure

2,173 posts

175 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Grenoble said:
Which driver will, or which (ex) champion will?

Champion: Hamilton
Driver: Maldonado
Champion: none
Driver: Pastor

Galileo

3,147 posts

247 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Whitefly Swatter said:
Galileo said:
I think the Big question of the weekend is; Who is going to hit the Wall of Champions first?

My money is on Vettel.
Massa ?
Nobody has that much bad luck.

Jasandjules

72,560 posts

258 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Fingers crossed for rain.....

vonuber

17,868 posts

194 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Galileo said:
Whitefly Swatter said:
Galileo said:
I think the Big question of the weekend is; Who is going to hit the Wall of Champions first?

My money is on Vettel.
Massa ?
Nobody has that much bad luck.
It depends if Alonso needs a safety car to win I guess.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Jasandjules said:
Fingers crossed for rain.....
Yeah, that safety car does sound nice. Well, for the first hour anyway.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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MartynVRS said:
Don't think any have "failed". Some have punctured and fallen apart but with 700+ bhp spinning through them it's understandable
Pirelli have been very keen to point out that in fact the delaminations this year are far safer than what used to happen. It appears all instances have been caused by running over debris. Historically that lead to a puncture and the tyre going flat and the car either crashing with a puncture or limping back to the pits, and the tyre falling apart on route damaging the car.

This year what happens is the tyre demlaminates but doesnt go down. This leads to spectactular pictures of bits coming off the tyre but the car remains under control, however the bits falling off leads to bad press for Pirelli. The inference being this years version is safer but perceived not to be, giving Pirelli an image problem.

Monty Zoomer

1,459 posts

186 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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There'll be some ground hogs.

Ferrari will have some really good updates and some stupid, dangerous ones as well. They'll share them out evenly. Fernando will get the really good updates and Filipe will get the stupid, dangerous ones.

There'll be some celebrities no-one's heard of on the grid.

Pirelli will say that the tyres are so bad to stop Red Bull evil winning.

Red Bull evil will win anyway.

Esteban will not win.

Romain and Pastor will both hit the wall of champions and Max will do something funny but I don't know what.

Sergio will crash into Jenson right in front of the pits, Lewis stylee.

Kimi will get some points.

Jasandjules

72,560 posts

258 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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stephen300o said:
Jasandjules said:
Fingers crossed for rain.....
Yeah, that safety car does sound nice. Well, for the first hour anyway.
Just hoping for something which throws a spanner in the works and hopefully reduces the impact of the tyres on the race...

NRS

26,214 posts

230 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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TheHeretic said:
vonuber said:
1) joke tyres
2) bring back powerful engines with no aero
3) vettel is a tt
4) horner is a tt
5) grosjean / perez is a liability
6) can we stop with the betting odds please
7) button toys out of pram
8) obligatory alonso driving god comment
9) yeah but equalled him in his rookie year
10) bbc/sky coverage is rubbish

Think that's most covered so we can discuss the race now. Should be a good one.
That cover it. Might as well unsubscribe from the thread now.
No, he missed:

11) You're a fanboy
12) Just because I don't/ do think # doesn't mean I'm a fanboy...

rufusruffcutt

1,550 posts

234 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Jasandjules said:
stephen300o said:
Jasandjules said:
Fingers crossed for rain.....
Yeah, that safety car does sound nice. Well, for the first hour anyway.
Just hoping for something which throws a spanner in the works and hopefully reduces the impact of the tyres on the race...
Friday, 7 June
A mix of sun and cloud. Low 14. High 21.

Saturday, 8 June
Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. Low 13. High 20.

Sunday, 9 June
Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. Low 13. High 23.

PhillipM

6,556 posts

218 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Chrisgr31 said:
Pirelli have been very keen to point out that in fact the delaminations this year are far safer than what used to happen. It appears all instances have been caused by running over debris. Historically that lead to a puncture and the tyre going flat and the car either crashing with a puncture or limping back to the pits, and the tyre falling apart on route damaging the car.

This year what happens is the tyre demlaminates but doesnt go down. This leads to spectactular pictures of bits coming off the tyre but the car remains under control, however the bits falling off leads to bad press for Pirelli. The inference being this years version is safer but perceived not to be, giving Pirelli an image problem.
Because it's crap. A puncture is something that goes through the carcass and lets the air out.
A delamination caused by a slit across the tread is a different thing altogether that shouldn't be happening.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

212 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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Martin Brundell in the Isle-of-Man interviewed for the TT on Channel 24 ( ITV4 ) Right Now. He started one of the races.

He stood at the bottom of Brae Hill and now knows what real road racing speed is about ... wink

Superb footage of the bikes in action on these TT Cgannel 24 programmes so far. The Helicopter footage of the bikes coming down the mountain is breathtakingly impressive.