Button to Red Bull
Button to Red Bull
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KevinBird

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1,068 posts

236 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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vescaegg

30,084 posts

196 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Id say its unlikely. Red Bull will want a firm number 2 for Vettel. Button wouldn't ever want to be that.

Fonz

361 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Betting's a mugs game....
Still maybe but I doubt it.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Somebody knows something? Yes we know there's a seat available when previously not. The odds for every breathing driver on the planet will have decreased.

This shouldn't be attributed solely to Button or knowledge of a contract. The article names Button amongst 3 other drivers whose odds decreased but named Button as bait for the British readership.

CocoUK

1,065 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Interesting that the bookies have dropped his price by so much.

You can make quite the case for it from both sides of the table, an experienced, disciplined, safe set of hands driving for a team that has won the last four* constructors titles, has a huge budget and the genius of Newey. I'd be very surprised if it happened though.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Like for like replacement for Webber. wink

Grenoble

59,229 posts

184 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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vescaegg said:
Id say its unlikely. Red Bull will want a firm number 2 for Vettel. Button wouldn't ever want to be that.
I think Button, like every other driver wants the fastest car possible under him, first and foremost.

egor110

17,674 posts

232 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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vescaegg said:
Id say its unlikely. Red Bull will want a firm number 2 for Vettel. Button wouldn't ever want to be that.
Yes i'm sure he's happy to be no.1 driver in a st car compared to getting regular podiums in the redbull.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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CocoUK said:
Interesting that the bookies have dropped his price by so much.
They are protecting themselves against potential losses.

CocoUK

1,065 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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egor110 said:
vescaegg said:
Id say its unlikely. Red Bull will want a firm number 2 for Vettel. Button wouldn't ever want to be that.
Yes i'm sure he's happy to be no.1 driver in a s**t car compared to getting regular podiums in the redbull.
Although i'm sure Button would be more than aware of what his position would be in 'Vettels team' as egor110 has mentioned, it's better to pick up crumbs from the table than to hope for scraps on the floor. Or something like that!

There would of course be other factors, length of contract, PR work, post-F1 RedBull event sponsorship etc etc

BMR

961 posts

207 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Where was Button in the odds before the bets were placed on him.

I noticed he was 2nd favourite between Raikkonen and Ricciardo and found that a bit strange.

MissChief

7,973 posts

197 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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According to the article he was 66/1 at one point.

Wonder if a lot of the bets were placed from Milton Keynes and Woking?

He signed a 'multi-year' contract which was judged to be until the end of 2015. Surely he'll be hoping that the switch to development of next years car so early should give them a good car and then the Honda switch the year after will keep him at McLaren? If he leaves he'll be no. 2 and Vettel will try and dominate him and expect preferential treatment. Better to be at least even at McLaren.

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

193 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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Vettel would prefer Button over Raikkonen as team mate any day, much less of a threat.

cosicave

686 posts

189 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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Hehehe…

Murph7355

41,954 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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Button's always struck me as more camomile tea than redbull.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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I think it'll be one of the TR guys

However, Button seems to be very good at capitalising on a good car...remember 2009 :-)

I'd struggle to see him fitting in their though

BMR

961 posts

207 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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weyland yutani said:
Vettel would prefer Button over Raikkonen as team mate any day, much less of a threat.
The majority thought Button would have his ass handed to him by Hamilton when he went to McLaren...

Button has been in F1 for a while now I wouldn't blame him for going to Red Bull for a year or two to finish his career.

JMC1

567 posts

264 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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Raikkonen seems the best choice if they want to field two top flight F1 stars and Kimi has a relationship with Red Bull from rallying but not sure if that is good or bad as he did crash a lot of rally cars.
Does anyone know what the relationship between Kimi and Adrian Newey was like at McLaren. If it was good then surely it is the way to go if Kimi wants it but if Adrian did not like his work attitude then it could be the key factor to Kimi never sitting in a Red Bull.

egor110

17,674 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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JMC1 said:
Raikkonen seems the best choice if they want to field two top flight F1 stars and Kimi has a relationship with Red Bull from rallying but not sure if that is good or bad as he did crash a lot of rally cars.
Does anyone know what the relationship between Kimi and Adrian Newey was like at McLaren. If it was good then surely it is the way to go if Kimi wants it but if Adrian did not like his work attitude then it could be the key factor to Kimi never sitting in a Red Bull.
If red bull don't plan on having seb as main driver then having kimi would be a bloody strong team although probably a nightmare to deal with behind the scenes.

One driver who's used to getting what he wants and another who really doesn't give a fk, would be great to watch.

I think it will go to button or riccardio as they just seem more suitable to be 2nd driver and not cost seb wins but still notch up valuable points for red bull.

Lastly what about massa? is he still going to be at ferrari next year?

Agent Orange

2,194 posts

275 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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I'm a huge Button fan but I can't see him in a Red Bull. He just doesn't fit the brand.

Kimi is a perfect fit in every single sense and I cannot see beyond Kimi as the replacement. A driver from TR is a gamble at this point and I've seen nothing to suggest either deserve a RB seat.

Kimi or Jenson will get you the manufacturers title and possibly the drivers too.

I suspect this is nothing more than someone placing a big bet just because the odds were too good to ignore for a driver of Jenson's ability who's in a team that appears to be going south.

Either that or the bookies drumming up so interest in another driver just so they can take the punters money rather than everyone betting on Kimi.