McLaren keeping JB on his toes
McLaren keeping JB on his toes
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andygo

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7,390 posts

284 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109941

Funny thing to say when JB hasn't signed a contract yet for 2014.

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

193 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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Did McLaren sign Perez with only a one year contract? Didn't realize that, hardly screams confidence in a new driver.

entropy

6,441 posts

232 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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'Option' is a two way street. Drivers like to have it in their contracts so they can have leeway at joining a different team, not to mention clauses like earning x amount of points that can activate the 'option' for the driver to stay in the team.

NotStig

636 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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Both sides are trying to push the price in their favour, it's just another negotiation tool.
Nothing to worry about. Probably.

jonnylayze

1,640 posts

255 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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Maybe Alonso is rumoured to be on the move and could go back to McL to partner Perez now Ron has taken a back seat. Button to Ferrari....

designndrive62

801 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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Is there a Japanese driver that Honda are pressuring them to sign? The only one I can think of is Kimi sato from auto gp but he hardly seems ready. Are there any others?

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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designndrive62 said:
Is there a Japanese driver that Honda are pressuring them to sign? The only one I can think of is Kimi sato from auto gp but he hardly seems ready. Are there any others?
The Japanese almost treat JB as one of their own anyway thumbup

llewop

3,945 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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ewenm said:
The Japanese almost treat JB as one of their own anyway thumbup
Exactly - if, as seems to be the case, the issue isn't 14, but 15 and beyond, I'd suspect that if McLaren put it to Honda that they stump up anything JB wants that McLaren don't want to pay.... they would.

John D.

20,931 posts

238 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Gaz. said:
jonnylayze said:
Maybe Alonso is rumoured to be on the move and could go back to McL to partner Perez now Ron has taken a back seat. Button to Ferrari....
Alonso has more chance sprouting wings and marrying a Mermaid than driving for Mclaren.
I wouldn't be so sure. Raikonnen is going to shake things up at Ferrari and everything doesn't seem rosy between Alonso and the team already. Things could get interesting in 2014. Especially if the car is a dud and Mclaren look strong for 2015 with Honda power (big 'if' I know!).

Henry Fiddleton

1,597 posts

206 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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As harsh as it is, I dont see Ferrando, Kimi and Button being the drivers to have for the 2015 seasons...

Vet, Rosberg, Ham, The Hulk and may be Gro as the people pulling the strings in 2015.

Kam

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Gaz. said:
Alonso has more chance sprouting wings and marrying a Mermaid than driving for Mclaren.
I know where you are coming from on this one but stranger things have happened. McLaren are due to announce a title sponsor on December 2nd. Some mutterings about whether that will happen, whether it is a new name or a ramping up of GSK (no Lucozade though...).....I don't know how much of a drain the road car business is, but if Alonso brought a larger slug of Santander money, he might be welcomed back?

Significant that Kimi is only on a 1 year contract though...all about Vettel I guess?....

Muzzer79

13,023 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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llewop said:
ewenm said:
The Japanese almost treat JB as one of their own anyway thumbup
Exactly - if, as seems to be the case, the issue isn't 14, but 15 and beyond, I'd suspect that if McLaren put it to Honda that they stump up anything JB wants that McLaren don't want to pay.... they would.
Paddock rumour is that taking up the option for 2014 is not an issue for either party, i.e they both want to.

It's whether JB signs a new deal taking him into the Honda years and he sees his career out there, or whether it is just 2014 and he's a free agent again for 2015.

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Gaz. said:
He cost them atleast one championship, a trip to the WMSC and $100m on top of a season of utter arse ache. He didn't act alone in Spygate but he was a significant player.
And they're just the minor reasons.

He will never ever be welcome back there whilst Ron still breathes.


andygo

Original Poster:

7,390 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Life Saab Itch said:
And they're just the minor reasons.

He will never ever be welcome back there whilst Ron still breathes.
Might not be welcome, but might be seen as an unpalatable but necessary evil.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Life Saab Itch said:
And they're just the minor reasons.

He will never ever be welcome back there whilst Ron still breathes.
Again, before the Arab investment, for sure...but now who knows?

Rollcage

11,345 posts

221 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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I reckon there is more chance of me driving the Mclaren than Alonso!

Teppic

8,071 posts

286 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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Ahem!

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns26366.html

McLaren, Honda eye Alonso

GrandPrix.com said:
The big rumour that shone under Singapore's lights on Thursday was all about Fernando Alonso -- and McLaren.

It was being whispered up and down the paddock that the real reason the British team is delaying the announcement about its drivers for next year is because negotiations with the disgruntled Ferrari 'number 1' Alonso are taking place.

Asked by the Daily Mail if he would hire the Spaniard, whose first McLaren stint in 2007 ended acrimoniously, team boss Martin Whitmarsh admitted: "Yes, if I could."

Jenson Button said on Thursday that his 2014 deal with McLaren is already "done". But it is believed the announcement is being held up so as not to focus speculation on the seat currently occupied by Sergio Perez.

Button, however, denied the Alonso subject is rampant even among those wearing McLaren team gear in Singapore.

"There hasn't been a word, that's the honest truth," he told the Independent newspaper.

"But I think it (being paired with Alonso) would be quite exciting."

In the last couple of days, it has become clear McLaren is thinking not only about its drivers for 2014, but also the start of the Honda era in 2015.

"It's a different situation with partners," Button admitted. "It may be to do with the funding, but I don't have a worry in the world about my future with this team."

That may be true, but also true is that Honda might see an Alonso-Button pairing as even better -- and worth paying handsomely for.

The move might also entice Ferrari sponsor Santander back to McLaren to help pay Alonso's huge retainer.

"We want a winning driver from day one," the Spanish newspaper Marca quotes a Honda insider as saying.

Henry Fiddleton

1,597 posts

206 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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That would be cool!

Kimi and the Hulk at Ferrari.

Alonso and Button at Mclaren.

Mclaren need ALL the help they can get for the next three years (Merc run out, Honda implementation, loss of major sponsors and a very poor 2013).


tonybhr

343 posts

164 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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It's on the BBC too, Alonso is apparently McLaren's "prime target"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/24171278

I'd be astonished if this happens, there's so much from 2007 to forgive and forget.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Friday 20th September 2013
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tonybhr said:
It's on the BBC too, Alonso is apparently McLaren's "prime target"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/24171278

I'd be astonished if this happens, there's so much from 2007 to forgive and forget.
Complete outrage if it does, Planet F1 also commented on Whitmarsh's comments - http://www.planetf1.com/driver/3213/8931306/McLare...

I take it Ron really doesnt deal with the F1 side anymore.