Lewis Hamilton confirmed at McLaren
Lewis Hamilton confirmed at McLaren
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GuyS.

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295 posts

244 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Well according to The Times anyway, not sure if its just speculation on their part but if its true, Good work fella !


www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2468907,00.html






Edited by GuyS. on Friday 24th November 07:43

hut49

3,544 posts

291 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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If confirmed that's great news BUT ..."the first black man..etc"...WTF has that to do with anything? Unbelievable!!

GuyS.

Original Poster:

295 posts

244 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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hut49 said:
If confirmed that's great news BUT ..."the first black man..etc"...WTF has that to do with anything? Unbelievable!!


I totally agree, I can't see the relevance in this at all.

The cynic in me would say that his management and McLaren are pushing this angle to raise his sponsorship potential. Personally I think his peddling ability is more than enough.

Whatever though, that's four British drivers in Formula 1 next season. Great stuff !

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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If it's true then that's fantastic and well-deserved.

As for the ethnicity angle, I think it's a good thing if it brings F1 to new communities - no one complains when a driver from a new country enters F1, at least not when they earn their place in the pack.

If it gets rid of the 'rich white man's sport' image then it's a good thing.

hut49

3,544 posts

291 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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But Narain Karthikeyan (ex-Jordan) wasn't exactly white was he?

D-Angle

4,468 posts

271 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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hut49 said:
But Narain Karthikeyan (ex-Jordan) wasn't exactly white was he?
He wasn't exactly good either...

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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hut49 said:
But Narain Karthikeyan (ex-Jordan) wasn't exactly white was he?

And he was hailed as the first Indian driver in F1 at the time

hut49

3,544 posts

291 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Right, Indian, British, French, Columbian, American are all OK...but "black man" is not.

markys

620 posts

286 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Confirmed, its on BBC as well as the McLaren website.

mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Good luck to him, hope he can take the "corporate" pressures.

nicholas blair

4,111 posts

313 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Is it cos I is black ?

spectatorsam

411 posts

238 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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kevin ritson said:
If it's true then that's fantastic and well-deserved.

As for the ethnicity angle, I think it's a good thing if it brings F1 to new communities - no one complains when a driver from a new country enters F1, at least not when they earn their place in the pack.

If it gets rid of the 'rich white man's sport' image then it's a good thing.



yes what an achievement
all it took was 15 years of sponsorship and total backing from .........Mclaren

how sensible of them to see all those years ago that all it would take to get this "raw" talent in to an F1 car would be hundreds of thousands of pounds and an F1 team in the wings!!
genious.

I wonder how many orientals or asians or even whites would have done as well with such support available???

rich white mans sport it remains. are you telling me that the gheto's of the world are bracing themselves for the onslaught of a hundred thousand go karts??

flemke

23,493 posts

266 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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spectatorsam said:
kevin ritson said:
If it's true then that's fantastic and well-deserved.

As for the ethnicity angle, I think it's a good thing if it brings F1 to new communities - no one complains when a driver from a new country enters F1, at least not when they earn their place in the pack.

If it gets rid of the 'rich white man's sport' image then it's a good thing.



yes what an achievement
all it took was 15 years of sponsorship and total backing from .........Mclaren

how sensible of them to see all those years ago that all it would take to get this "raw" talent in to an F1 car would be hundreds of thousands of pounds and an F1 team in the wings!!
genious.

I wonder how many orientals or asians or even whites would have done as well with such support available???

rich white mans sport it remains. are you telling me that the gheto's of the world are bracing themselves for the onslaught of a hundred thousand go karts??

So you'd be as quick as Hamilton, if only you'd had the same unfair advantage?

megy

2,429 posts

243 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Well done to Lewis, told Ron at 10 he will race for him, and doing just that.

3 photos I took at Silverstone on his first test in the car:





williamp

20,393 posts

302 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Its not that he's black that I particularly care. Its because he's another British driver in F1. And that is something I will cheer about. The fact that he's very quick is a bonus.

Of, course, I knew him when he was in F Renault days, I spoke to him once. I said "hey! You're Lewis Hamilton. Good luck in the race" and he said "Thanks. thats very kind of you..."

Not saying he would'nt have made it without me, but.....

cnhss1

942 posts

246 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Who cares what creed, colour, denomination, etc he is, hes got there thru hard work. Yes hes had the backing of Mclaren, but how many of us want anything enough to essentially give up 10 years of a normal childhhod into adolescence to pursue their dream. I certainly wouldnt/couldnt have done. That makes him an outstanding character in my book. Ive never met him, in fact dont even follow F1 that much these days, but glad that someone that 'talked the talk' all those yeras ago, will now the chance to 'walk the walk'. Lets hope he can do it.....

waynepixel

3,978 posts

253 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Good driver, I followed his F2 season this year. It is not very often you get a front running car to jump into, when it your first season. It will be interesting to see how he deal with the it all.

stockhatcher

5,172 posts

252 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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waynepixel said:
Good driver, I followed his F2 season this year. It is not very often you get a front running car to jump into, when it your first season. It will be interesting to see how he deal with the it all.



i think the key attributes a world class driver demonstrates is the ability to get 'upto speed' quickly. by that i mean in Hamiltons case, how long it takes him to out qualify Alfonzo, and then how long it takes him to do it consistently. after that it is how long it takes him to outrace alfonzo, through setting quicker laps more consistently.

on the first point i can see hamilton ( if he is indeed the second coming) out qualifying Alfonzo once or twice in the first half of the season, however i cannot see him out racing Alfonzo this year ( not unless Alfonzo is compromised for some reason or other during a race).

schumi outqualified de cesaris on his first race, and piquet in his second, however both were at that point a spent force, Alfonzo on the other hand is at the top of his game. i think it is going to be incredibly difficult for Hamilton beat Alfonzo more often than not.

however he needs to lay down markers all the way through the season, and by seasons end be considered to be as quick...

hopefully big ron will give him a couple of years, by the end of year two there will be no excuses, he'll have to perform at least at the same level.



stockhatcher

5,172 posts

252 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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taken from autosport, quoting big Ron

"If you had a situation where all the cars were equal, I think Lewis would beat a significant percentage of the drivers who currently sit on a Grand Prix grid," he said. "I am distinctly unimpressed with the majority of drivers currently involved in F1, and if it wasn't the case then I would have encouraged my colleagues to take a different path.

D-Angle

4,468 posts

271 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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So we have Button in an incrasingly quick Honda, Coulthard in the Newey-design RB3, and Hamilton in the McLaren. What odds an all-British podium?