Ron's games
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35secToNuvolari

Original Poster:

1,016 posts

232 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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A good example of why I'm not an all around fan of Ron's personality.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/...

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Sounds like a degree of bitterness in there, though. I don't think anyone but the most ardent supporter of David would think that he would have taken a championship at McLaren in '98 or '99.

Sure Ron and Mika were close but much of that comes from Adelaide '95, just as Ron has a bond with Lewis because he's watched him grow up. If anything it just proves how human Dennis is.

fatboy111

308 posts

246 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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New book. Headline / news worthy quotes. Increased sales.

Edited by fatboy111 on Monday 29th October 18:11

Ahonen

5,032 posts

308 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Odd that he stayed there for 9 years if he felt he was playing second fiddle from the very first race.

Oh look, it's from his new autobiography.

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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What DC says there fits well with what I (and I'm sure everyone else) heard when Ron was interviewed after LH stuck it in the gravel trap in China.

"We weren't racing Kimi, we were racing Fernando"

Autobiography or not, I believe DC's story on this.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Get Karter said:
What DC says there fits well with what I (and I'm sure everyone else) heard when Ron was interviewed after LH stuck it in the gravel trap in China.

"We weren't racing Kimi, we were racing Fernando"

Autobiography or not, I believe DC's story on this.
Oh gawd, not that again. Hamiltons stratergists were racing Alonso at the time, he was the only oposition stopping him becoming champion until he binned it. Alonso's strategists would have said the same thing had they been asked. Thats what happens in motor racing where the team runs more than one driver, unless you have a number 1 and number 2, like Ferrari had with Michael. It's not Rocket science.

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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johnfelstead said:
Get Karter said:
What DC says there fits well with what I (and I'm sure everyone else) heard when Ron was interviewed after LH stuck it in the gravel trap in China.

"We weren't racing Kimi, we were racing Fernando"

Autobiography or not, I believe DC's story on this.
Oh gawd, not that again. Hamiltons stratergists were racing Alonso at the time, he was the only oposition stopping him becoming champion until he binned it. Alonso's strategists would have said the same thing had they been asked. Thats what happens in motor racing where the team runs more than one driver, unless you have a number 1 and number 2, like Ferrari had with Michael. It's not Rocket science.
Don't start with your "oh gawd" purely because the facts I stated don't fit with the way you'd like to see things...it wasn't Hamilton's stratergists(sic) that said it, it was the team boss.

Edited by Get Karter on Tuesday 30th October 10:49

Erijaso

505 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Ron Dennis and his quote about DC ' brain fade ' caused him to crash out, sums it all up for me.

Later after the race, it turned out to be mechanical and not DC's fault at all.

Is that a good team principle backing his driving, I think not.

That's my two pennies worth.

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Marki

15,763 posts

299 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Ahonen said:
Odd that he stayed there for 9 years if he felt he was playing second fiddle from the very first race.

Oh look, it's from his new autobiography.
hehe

sniff petrol

13,125 posts

241 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Ahonen said:
Odd that he stayed there for 9 years if he felt he was playing second fiddle from the very first race.

Oh look, it's from his new autobiography.
He'll be a "F1 driver in a resonably priced car" on Top Gear at this rate to get some more sales!

Derek Smith

49,703 posts

277 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Ahonen said:
Odd that he stayed there for 9 years if he felt he was playing second fiddle from the very first race.
Excellent point. Mind you, DC was never in the same class as MH and was lucky to be in the same team. When he started he showed great promise but never fulfilled it. He was probably the best journeyman driver of recent years. Team managers know what they get with him and, of course, what they don't get.

Mika gave me the impression of being able to be one of the all-time greats but he seemed to lack that edge. He certainly had the talent. What would you get if you mixed DC with MH? A better selling autobiography, that's for sure.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Get Karter said:
johnfelstead said:
Get Karter said:
What DC says there fits well with what I (and I'm sure everyone else) heard when Ron was interviewed after LH stuck it in the gravel trap in China.

"We weren't racing Kimi, we were racing Fernando"

Autobiography or not, I believe DC's story on this.
Oh gawd, not that again. Hamiltons stratergists were racing Alonso at the time, he was the only oposition stopping him becoming champion until he binned it. Alonso's strategists would have said the same thing had they been asked. Thats what happens in motor racing where the team runs more than one driver, unless you have a number 1 and number 2, like Ferrari had with Michael. It's not Rocket science.
Don't start with your "oh gawd" purely because the facts I stated don't fit with the way you'd like to see things...it wasn't Hamilton's stratergists(sic) that said it, it was the team boss.

Edited by Get Karter on Tuesday 30th October 10:49
Oh dear. wink It was Ron responding to requests about the strategy the team were following with Hamilton. It didnt matter if they asked Ron, Martin Whitmarsh, Lewis himself or the tea lady, the reality of the situation was the same, Hamilton was racing Alonso to try and beat him.

That was the plan by the people who supply him with a car, give their drivers the best chance to win, whoever they are.

Had anyone asked Ron the same about Alonso, he would have answered in the same way, saying they were racing Hamilton, what else do you expect him to say?