Max Mosley says I am not objective
Max Mosley says I am not objective
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andyps

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7,819 posts

311 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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In a article quoted on Autosport Max Mosley is definitely saying that I am not objective:

MM said:
The FIA head admitted he is pleased with the way the governing body handled the spying scandal.

"I would say that we did it the right way at each stage," he added. "When we had the first hearing on the 26th of July we were all very suspicious.

"We did not really believe that the only person involved was Mike Coughlan, but we had to find clear evidence and there was not sufficient evidence to convict them.

"Then when we had the second hearing there was enough evidence, and although we were greatly attacked in the English press I think that any objective person would say that there was quite enough.
The article is here

When is he going to shut up?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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question..

As paying licence holders, how can we get a voice in asking for him to be sacked?

PJS917

1,194 posts

277 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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andyps said:
When is he going to shut up?
Probably never . Despot dictators like Mad Max have no grip on reality or common sense, the rest of the Fia is made up of imbeciles and crackpots with none capable of saying anything other than certainly Max. Lets face it governing a sport is not rocket science, Max has surrounded himself with sycophantic yes men that have an easy life as long as they agree with their commandant.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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I'm finding the whole "next team to be caught faces exclusion" statement rather amusing. Should this be "next team that has a boss I don't get on with, to get caught faces exclusion"?

toomuchbeer

877 posts

237 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Autosport said:
And Mosley is also hopeful of a scandal-free 2008.

"I hope so. But it is not in my hands."

Errrrrmmmmmmmmm.... not in your hands you say........

Maybe Ferrari haven't told him what he's doing next.whistle


flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Scuffers said:
question..

As paying licence holders, how can we get a voice in asking for him to be sacked?
I posted this link a while ago. http://www.fia.com/thefia/Membership/index_members...
It shows, by country, who are the members of the FIA. Each has an equal vote for FIA President.

If you'd like to have a voice, you may want to consider becoming President of The Institute of Advanced Motorists, or maybe of The Camping and Caravanning Club. Those august bodies have important things to say about motor racing...

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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andyps said:
When is he going to shut up?
When people stop asking him?

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7203074.stm 
Banging on about McLaren as ever...glosses over Renaults trangressions doesn't he? (although to be fair, that's edited highlights of what he said).

So, having already demonstrated the evenhandedness of Idi Amin he now expects us to believe that this latest statement means anything?!

Can anyone enlighten me as to the reasons the breakaway series never went ahead in the end?
Crying shame that in my opinion as all it has subsequently done (and everyone knew it would if it didn't occur) is strengthen the hand of the FIA, and by default Ferrari.

What with the Martin Brundle commentating fiasco the FIA really have shown themselves to be as adept at administering motorsport as George Monbiot would be. In fact, I daresay he'd be more effective...consistent at least..

Fckwits of the highest order deserving of no ones respect.

Edited by DrTre on Wednesday 23 January 11:08

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

247 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Here we go - continuing (i) the bizarre conspiracy theory that somehow the FIA favour Ferrari and (ii) complaining about how McLaren were hard done by last year.

And you guys complain about my negative comments about Lewis Hamilton ; )

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Ecurie Ecosse said:
Here we go - continuing (i) the bizarre conspiracy theory that somehow the FIA favour Ferrari and (ii) complaining about how McLaren were hard done by last year.

And you guys complain about my negative comments about Lewis Hamilton ; )
Nope, Mclaren were guilty as sin in my book, Renault too, that's the inconsistency. And every other team on the grid, at some level Mosley has a hard on for getting one over on Dennis that's all.

As for the FIA/Ferrari "conspiracy" apologies if it's reading like that but what I meant was i can definitely envisage more favour being given to the supporters of the FIA (Ferrari and the other teams not involved in the potential breakaway series) than to the "troublemakers".
As Flemke has posted elsewhere, there's the not so small issue of disproportionate monies being paid too...

Like i have said before and stand by, I don't have a downer on any team (nor really favour any inparticular, save perhaps Williams) but Ferrari have been on the end of some particularly favourable decisions in recent years...(flexi floor/mass damper etc...although I realise others benefitted from those decisions too)

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Edited by DrTre on Wednesday 23 January 11:22

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

247 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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That's OK, I was being slightly tongue in cheek as I can sympathise with McLaren's predicament last year.

air cooled

283 posts

232 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Well said DrTre thumbup

Whilst not ruling out an FIA conspiracy against McL last year, the blatent favouritism shown to Renault seems to be ignored by most of the Gentlemen of the Motorsports Forum .

I hazard a guess that Renault were let off to make sure Alonso was back in a competitive car(drawing good TV revenues in for Bernie).

We collectively stick metaphorical pins into the Mad Max dolls with a passion, yet why keep picking on Maxie ?

It is not the monkey we need to criticise its the Vertically Challenged Organ Grinder (VCOG) who needs criticising as he is pulling the strings.

And each and every string has millions of quid at the end of it!



jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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DrTre said:
Can anyone enlighten me as to the reasons the breakaway series never went ahead in the end?
Ferrari pulled out of it after being bribed to stay with the FIA. It's uncanny that the amount given to them was $100m.
DrTre said:
Crying shame that in my opinion as all it has subsequently done (and everyone knew it would if it didn't occur) is strengthen the hand of the FIA, and by default Ferrari.
It all fits together so nicely, doesn't it?