Silverstone made £13m profit - or did they?
Silverstone made £13m profit - or did they?
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skeggysteve

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5,724 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Story here

Anyone got a reliable link to this 'story'?

Or should I treat it in the same way I've treated 'Ron has been fired' story.

Piglet

6,250 posts

284 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Interesting that the article refers to the BRDC but reports to profits from operating the circuit.

The BRDC is a company limited by guarantee, it's effectively "not for profit", the circuit is managed and operated by Silverstone Circuits Limited. I don't know who the GP contract reverted to once Octagon/IPG upped and left - presumably to the BRDC rather than the SCL as the original lease had been from the BRDC to Octagon (or was it even BHL?).

Clearly someone has seen accounts but I wonder if they entirely understand what they have seen?

I appreciate that my response doesn't answer the question at all!!

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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I would assume the BRDC have a separate trading comapny to run and operate silverstone... thats the normal way charities and not for profit organisations get around things.. owning a company that can make a profit...

I thought the flipping entry fees were high...

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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The pit pass article is woeful.

BRDC Limited runs the circuit since Interpublic bought itself out of its contract.

For the 18 months to 31 Dec 2006 BRDC Ltd had a turnover of £54m, an opertaing loss of £739,000 and a post tax loss of £1.5m. This compares with a post tax profit of ~£15m in the 12 month period to 30 June 2005, and this was due to the £22m payment from Interpublic to get out of the contract to run the circuit.

The article talks about Ecclestone's F1 group making just £1.5m due to it making massive debt repayments. As anyone with even the most basic financial knowledge would know, debt repayments have nothing to do with profit.

Not that any of this is 'news', where the word new suggests something, er, new. BRDCs accounts were publishd in May last year.

Very poor article indeed

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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If I was the conspiracty type, then that 'report' was well planted...

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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After a couple more minuted digging I see where they get their numbers - the Pit Pass figures are from Silverstone Circuits Limited accounts.

The figures they report are correct, but still old and still misleading.

The 18 months figures to Dec 2006 include two GPs and all the other revenue from running the race circuit. Prior to that Interpublic ran the circuit and turnover was just £5.5m in the 12 months to 30 June 2005.

They aren't comparing apples with apples.