Are the wheels about to fly off Ferrari's wagon ?
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What with their performance this weekend there seems to be a lack of cohesion within the team.
In the days before Team Schumacher, their results were abysmal.
Berger and Alesi driving uncompetitive cars, and the Agnellis sticking their oars in a bit too often, Luca di Montizemolo was diverted to Chief.
Schumacher had his ear, and promptly got Ross and Rory hired. They really gelled, and the results showed.
Now Schumacher, Ross Brawn, Jean Todt, Rory Byrne have moved.
Nigel Stepney seemed unable to accept his limitations, and has imploded, Luca di M has gone, and everything seems to have changed around.
The four stages of team building [forming, norming storming and performing]
must surely be wedged at the first stage.
add to this how hard it is to follow up record breaking form, are the wheels about to fly off their wagon ?
In the days before Team Schumacher, their results were abysmal.
Berger and Alesi driving uncompetitive cars, and the Agnellis sticking their oars in a bit too often, Luca di Montizemolo was diverted to Chief.
Schumacher had his ear, and promptly got Ross and Rory hired. They really gelled, and the results showed.
Now Schumacher, Ross Brawn, Jean Todt, Rory Byrne have moved.
Nigel Stepney seemed unable to accept his limitations, and has imploded, Luca di M has gone, and everything seems to have changed around.
The four stages of team building [forming, norming storming and performing]
must surely be wedged at the first stage.
add to this how hard it is to follow up record breaking form, are the wheels about to fly off their wagon ?
I guess the engineers that were there building the cars last year are still there and the budget is still there? Todt is still there in an executive roll, schumacher is still in the background somewhere. Hopefully OZ was just teething problems, getting used to the new ECU etc... Im sure they will turn it around.
BoRED S2upid said:
I guess the engineers that were there building the cars last year are still there and the budget is still there? Todt is still there in an executive roll, schumacher is still in the background somewhere. Hopefully OZ was just teething problems, getting used to the new ECU etc... Im sure they will turn it around.
They may turn it around, but not with Todt. His only current role with F. is on the Board of Directors, which is Luca's way of sacking him without the public embarrassment or kickback.
Team ferrari didn't really become class of the field until the Rory, Ross, Jean team arrived and got things sorted. They went for the best money could buy and got them. All decisions were made by the team itself with little interference from above and beyond. They are the ones who made it team schumacher. Things now appear to be changing quite quickly and radically. There's rumours of an 'all Italian' team (presumably not drivers) which does not bode well for ferrari supporters. As mentioned, Todt has been sacked.
Still, look on the bright side: pit stops will soon be funny again.
Whilst I agree that there's much that hasn't changed (although I'd suggest money might soon become a problem), the RJR team is what kept ferrari winning for all those years. I doubt its downfall will be instant but there will be a problem that's not sorted, then another. All of a sudden there will be various sponsors sticking their noses in, FIAT wanting to take control, and the chap sweeping the floor will demand input into the radiator design. Then it won't be long before we see pitboards with the word 'All' on it.
Massa must be under pressure and probably won't last long so the first fight will be as to who will replace him.
One good thing, though. It will mean much more exciting racing.
Still, look on the bright side: pit stops will soon be funny again.
Whilst I agree that there's much that hasn't changed (although I'd suggest money might soon become a problem), the RJR team is what kept ferrari winning for all those years. I doubt its downfall will be instant but there will be a problem that's not sorted, then another. All of a sudden there will be various sponsors sticking their noses in, FIAT wanting to take control, and the chap sweeping the floor will demand input into the radiator design. Then it won't be long before we see pitboards with the word 'All' on it.
Massa must be under pressure and probably won't last long so the first fight will be as to who will replace him.
One good thing, though. It will mean much more exciting racing.
BoRED S2upid said:
I guess the engineers that were there building the cars last year are still there and the budget is still there? Todt is still there in an executive roll, schumacher is still in the background somewhere. Hopefully OZ was just teething problems, getting used to the new ECU etc... Im sure they will turn it around.
But don't forgot, they weren't really the best car on the grid last year, they only won because Mclaren were booted out of the championship. They drop another peg and they'll be the 3rd place team behind Mclaren and BMW.flemke said:
Beyond him, Byrne is still there, although he is doing A1GP.
Is Rory Byrne still there ?I was under the impression he left a year before Ross Brawn.
The Schumacher influence will be less noticable as his power base wains.
The engineers and compartments within the team may be the same, however core direction and the cascade thereof from principle team members has changed. How this manifests itself with results will be interesting.
Babybel said:
Ramthorne said:
Scuffers said:
thinking about it, who does that leave from teh Benetton days?
The winning skills used at Benneton will be of less benefit now that there are standard ecu's. MonkeyHanger said:
Babybel said:
Ramthorne said:
Scuffers said:
thinking about it, who does that leave from teh Benetton days?
The winning skills used at Benneton will be of less benefit now that there are standard ecu's. 
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