how can we put an end to the debacle in f1....website maybe?

[castrolcraig]

im getting sick off mole-sly the nazi, bernie the hobbit and the trolls at ferrari recklessly endagering the future of formula 1, i know 90% of the users on this site feel the same so how do we go about sorting it, the only way i can see of pooling the general opinion of f1 fans worldwide and making our voices heard is a website or online petiton of some kind, anybody else thought of this or heard of anyone else thinking of organising one, or perhaps someone on ph is up to the challenge??


craig

[NewNameNeeded]

just out of interest what are the aspects you feel are currently spoiling F1?

[sstein]

I'm guessing he is upset at the Mclaren pair getting penalties and is blaming it on Mosley, Bernie and Ferrari??



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Stuart

[odyssey2200]

NewNameNeeded said:

just out of interest what are the aspects you feel are currently spoiling F1?

you need to ask?

Silly rules
Too many rules
Bias in their application
Dangerous rules

Berni and Max being complete dick heads
Whingers and politics
Maclaren being repeated kicked by Ferrari Internal Affairs aka FIA

[sstein]

Remember this isn't the General Motorsport forum, this is the Mclaren Fans Forum. If Mclaren aern't winning then you have to come up with theories as to why Ferrari are cheating or the FIA are interfering in the results.

Ferrari fans aern't welcome here

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Stuart

[odyssey2200]

I am not a Maclaren fan atall.

I just enjoy seeing a good race.

[blueyes]

sstein said:

Remember this isn't the General Motorsport forum, this is the Mclaren Fans Forum. If Mclaren aern't winning then you have to come up with theories as to why Ferrari are cheating or the FIA are interfering in the results.

Ferrari fans aern't welcome here

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Stuart

Ah! that explains it. I popped in to see if there was a reasonable debate going on about the penalties and it DID seem a little one sided. Seems that they still can't get over "Jesus" Lewis losing last year.

[Mojocvh]

sstein said:

Remember this isn't the General Motorsport forum, this is the Mclaren Fans Forum. If Mclaren aern't winning then you have to come up with theories as to why Ferrari are cheating or the FIA are interfering in the results.

Ferrari fans aern't welcome here

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Stuart

Come on look at the coverage before it is removed (another issue all to it's self) lots of cars on track the only way to clear the "racing line" would have had the cars weaving all over the track, is that what those who formulate and enforce these rules want, it is neither a fair or just ruling.

But (PH mode full on now ) who is surprised at this blatent anti McLaren ruling

[HarryW]

sstein said:

....

Ferrari fans aern't welcome here
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I've noted that too

I suppose its a bit like Man Utd in football, everyone loves to hate them apart from their supporters in China. Add to that good old Alex whining every time a decision goes against 'his boys' and never has the good grace or indeed the intelligence to recognise when he's had good fortune and the referees (draws a parallel to the FIA here) on his side.

Come on Mc............

[SamHH]

The best way would be to stop watching it on TV and to stop going to races. I don't think that'll happen on a significant scale though.

Edited by SamHH on Saturday 22 March 17:02

[IforB]

sstein said:

Remember this isn't the General Motorsport forum, this is the Mclaren Fans Forum. If Mclaren aern't winning then you have to come up with theories as to why Ferrari are cheating or the FIA are interfering in the results.

Ferrari fans aern't welcome here

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Stuart

Bo**ocks. This is a British forum, so there are likely to be people who enjoy seeing a British team and driver doing well, that much is obvious, personally I am a very non-partisan fan and have always had a soft spot for Ferrari and always thought that McLaren were a bit "cold" in their attitude.

However, with recent events, looking at the available evidence, then there has been a witch hunt. I feel that the FIA has allowed a very dangerous situation to appear in that they are showing bias against one team and that just undermines the fact that they are an impartial governing body.

Comments from Mosely show the contempt they have for the idea of fair play. Accusing Ron Dennis of lying for instance.

Mosely should have kept his mouth shut and just been above all the mud flinging, unfortunately he has allowed his ego and obvious dislike of Dennis to show. That just isn't acceptable in a governing body president.

Can you imagine a football ref or Cricket umpire showing bias? There would be uproar.

The FIA should be totally independant and should be striving to show this. The leadership just isn't smart enough to do this. Maybe they are clever, but the arrogance needed to basically ignore the idea of fair play is astonishing.

So if you want a hand with a website, then let me know. I'll be happy to help.

[greygoose]

castrolcraig said:

im getting sick off mole-sly the nazi, bernie the hobbit and the trolls at ferrari recklessly endagering the future of formula 1, i know 90% of the users on this site feel the same so how do we go about sorting it, the only way i can see of pooling the general opinion of f1 fans worldwide and making our voices heard is a website or online petiton of some kind, anybody else thought of this or heard of anyone else thinking of organising one, or perhaps someone on ph is up to the challenge??


craig

If you dislike it so much then stop watching, I don't think Bernie or Max will give a toss though.

[castrolcraig]

blueyes said:

sstein said:

Remember this isn't the General Motorsport forum, this is the Mclaren Fans Forum. If Mclaren aern't winning then you have to come up with theories as to why Ferrari are cheating or the FIA are interfering in the results.

Ferrari fans aern't welcome here

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Stuart

Ah! that explains it. I popped in to see if there was a reasonable debate going on about the penalties and it DID seem a little one sided. Seems that they still can't get over "Jesus" Lewis losing last year.

quite how anyone thiks that im a mcmerc fan is beyond me, i personally think there are better drivers in f1 than saint lewis but having bad luck can be a hindrance in f1, the issue is with fairness and having one rule for all, remember the barge boards last year ,or renault copying mcmerc ip??

the problem is that things in f1 have become so distorted over the years that the idiots in charge think that there helping, which there not, i think that the ban on tc is a good step and we should get back to basics, slicks,less aero and lets see who the real drivers are, but none of that will happen and fairness wil not prevail until molesly and his idotic bunch of nazi loving co-horts are removed from power.

[castrolcraig]

castrolcraig said:

blueyes said:

sstein said:

Remember this isn't the General Motorsport forum, this is the Mclaren Fans Forum. If Mclaren aern't winning then you have to come up with theories as to why Ferrari are cheating or the FIA are interfering in the results.

Ferrari fans aern't welcome here

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Stuart

Ah! that explains it. I popped in to see if there was a reasonable debate going on about the penalties and it DID seem a little one sided. Seems that they still can't get over "Jesus" Lewis losing last year.

quite how anyone thiks that im a mcmerc fan is beyond me, i personally think there are better drivers in f1 than saint lewis but having bad luck can be a hindrance in f1, the issue is with fairness and having one rule for all, remember the barge boards last year ,or renault copying mcmerc ip??

the problem is that things in f1 have become so distorted over the years that the idiots in charge think that there helping, which there not, i think that the ban on tc is a good step and we should get back to basics, slicks,less aero and lets see who the real drivers are, but none of that will happen and fairness wil not prevail until molesly and his idotic bunch of nazi loving co-horts are removed from power.

no they wont, but things snowball, and you never know what may happen (hoping a sniper takes molesly and bernie out)

anyway, lets be honest, how many f1 have actually swaitched off because of last year,lets face it the 2 wheeled action was much more exciting than f1.....

[jamieboy]

castrolcraig said:

until molesly and his idotic bunch of nazi loving co-horts

castrolcraig said:

mole-sly the nazi

I'd be happy to help with a website to help put an end to this kind of tripe.

edited to rephrase

Edited by jamieboy on Saturday 22 March 17:36

[castrolcraig]

jamieboy said:

castrolcraig said:

until molesly and his idotic bunch of nazi loving co-horts

castrolcraig said:

mole-sly the nazi

I'd be happy to help with a website to stamp out this kind of tripe.

your denying the fact then??

do you know who his parents were??

[jamieboy]

castrolcraig said:

your denying the fact then??

do you know who his parents were??

Yes, I know who his parents were.

I also know that if your only argument with Mosley involves harking back to his parents, then you really have no argument with him at all.

It's just lazy - raise your game a bit, and criticise him for things he's actually done. I'm not denying that still leaves you plenty of scope.

Edited by jamieboy on Saturday 22 March 17:40

[odyssey2200]

Would the fact that Jamieboy ownes and has owned exclusively Italian cars be a factor effecting his views?

[SamHH]

castrolcraig said:

your denying the fact then??

do you know who his parents were??

Are you saying that he is a Nazi simply because of who his parents were? Do you not think that is it possible for a person to have political opinions that differ from those of their ancestors?

[castrolcraig]

SamHH said:

castrolcraig said:

your denying the fact then??

do you know who his parents were??

Are you saying that he is a Nazi simply because of who his parents were? Do you not think that is it possible for a person to have political opinions that differ from those of their ancestors?

has he ever distanced himself from those views????