Didn't know Max M had been in prison...
Didn't know Max M had been in prison...
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Tony 1234

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256 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Just reading "Bernie's Game" by Terry Lovell, and it states max was a former prisoner.

Does anyone know what he did?

Tony

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Isn't it relating to the time when his family was interned during WW2?

dougc

8,241 posts

294 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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I didn't think he ended up in the nick. He got involved in some sort of fracas in the street in London years ago and got a court appearance for his efforts.

Tony 1234

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Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Page 43 "Many years later there was another former 'prisoner' Ecclestone was able to help,"

This is a reference to MM

Tony

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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I thought he was born in prison.

ETA: Just checked this, it's bks.

Edited by MrKipling43 on Wednesday 21st May 14:41

10 Pence Short

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Wednesday 21st May 2008
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His parents were interned in 1940, and between then and their release he did spend some time with them, as far as I'm aware.

Tony 1234

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Wednesday 21st May 2008
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10 Pence Short said:
His parents were interned in 1940, and between then and their release he did spend some time with them, as far as I'm aware.
Ah, thank you.

Tony

Derek Smith

49,724 posts

277 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Ozzy Mosley was banged up first, although not really in prison as he had a little cottage in the grounds of the prison and had prisoners as servants and gardeners - I kid you not. His missus, the very weird Diana Mitford, was preggers with Max Rufus so was allowed to remain at large until a few weeks after the birth. MR was then, as was the norm for such people, farmed out to wet nurses and governesses until 1943 when someone in government got confused as to whether the war was still on or not and let mummy and daddy out although I believe there was an admonisment about being too pro Hitler.

Max was involed with the Union Movement, the post war reincarnation of the British Union of Fascists.

Mr_Yogi

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284 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Anyone see the documentary on More 4 the other night about Unity Milford, quite interesting but I wonder if it would have been screened had max not been caught with his pants off and a thermomitor up his bottom hehe

Nothing seemed to happen to her when she came back to Britain thanks to her dads connections...

Derek Smith

49,724 posts

277 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Derek Smith said:
Ozzy Mosley was banged up first, although not really in prison as he had a little cottage in the grounds of the prison and had prisoners as servants and gardeners - I kid you not. His missus, the very weird Diana Mitford, was preggers with Max Rufus so was allowed to remain at large until a few weeks after the birth. MR was then, as was the norm for such people, farmed out to wet nurses and governesses until 1943 when someone in government got confused as to whether the war was still on or not and let mummy and daddy out although I believe there was an admonisment about being too pro Hitler.

Max was involed with the Union Movement, the post war reincarnation of the British Union of Fascists.
Just had a phone call from a friend telling me I was in some way wrong about MM's early years.

It seems - I haven't researched this but do remember reading something similar - that little Max did indeed start life with a wet nurse and then a nannie - somehow different from a governess. They then went to live with a very strange, probably Mitford related, aunt who wanted nothing to do with the child. She had, before he arrived, gone round and killed all her cats and dogs and blamed this on MM somehow. As I say, very strange.

Perhaps Mosley's weird behaviour is now more understandable, but no more acceptable of course.

MM was arrested a number of times in his Union Movement days, but only for minor public order infringements and obstruction, that sort of thing. In those days police officers used to prosecute their own offences and were no match for a real lawyer. He got off most maybe all but I do seem to remember him getting fined one time. But maybe not.

I went to a meeting when MM's daddy was fighting to be MP for Mile End or such in the early 60s and heard MM speak. My father, who was rabidly anti-fascist, took me when I said something flippant about fascism. He proved his point.

Derek Smith

49,724 posts

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Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Dug this out online from an article in the Daily Mail:

In 1961 " . . . aged 21 and still at Oxford, Max Rufus Mosley was fined £2 for obstructing a policeman in Trafalgar Square.

"He had been taking part in a counter-demonstration against an anti-apartheid protest and was said to have been travelling in a lorry containing a mallet, three pickaxe handles and six coshes."

As one does.

Whilst people do change, you have to admit that for him it was from a very low baseline.



dgboxer123

254 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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Derek Smith said:
Dug this out online from an article in the Daily Mail:

In 1961 " . . . aged 21 and still at Oxford, Max Rufus Mosley was fined £2 for obstructing a policeman in Trafalgar Square.

"He had been taking part in a counter-demonstration against an anti-apartheid protest and was said to have been travelling in a lorry containing a mallet, three pickaxe handles and six coshes."

As one does.

Whilst people do change, you have to admit that for him it was from a very low baseline.
So, in addition to being incompetent (or corrupt - re. the rights issue), a sexual sadist who enjoys hurting women etc. he is also a racist - no doubt reformed!

I wonder how many of the business contacts, sponsors, dignitaries et al know this?

Just the pedigree for the role - stay, do, please . .

Still, given his family and early upbringing (or should that be downbringing) I'm almost feeling sorry for him - I did say "almost"!