Its Mugello this weekend !!!!!.......................
Its Mugello this weekend !!!!!.......................
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Furyous

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25,699 posts

250 months

Friday 30th May 2008
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Damn I look forward this one Moto gp race more than any other in the calender.

Year on year it has provided some of the most stunning racing Moto gp has ever put on.

This promises no exception, an on form Rossi, who claims the race as his own, Lorenzo getting fitter by the minute, Pedrosa spoiling the party, and maybe even Capirex to get in the mix.

Roll on Sunday.

Predictions chaps ?

FourWheelDrift

92,264 posts

313 months

Friday 30th May 2008
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Toseland with the new short wheelbase Yamaha that Rossi, Edwards and Lorenzo have been using to great effect to shine, he held a 2.5s lead at the top of the charts this afternoon in the wet weather before the other caught up. He still ended up 5th quickest.

Can't vote against Rossi for the win, but look out for the other Yamahas.

If Stoner can get the Ducati to go around the corners anywhere near as good as the Yamahas he'll murder them on the straight. He can be 4 bike lengths behind coming out the final corner and I think he could out drag them to the finish line.

The monkey on the Honda will probably be there too but this isn't a point and squirt circuit so his feather weight will not be that much of an advantage this weekend.

Furyous

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25,699 posts

250 months

Friday 30th May 2008
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Agree with you about Tose, I think he has really been exceptional in his rookie year.

Can Edwards finally make something of his new laid back approach to racing ?

Will Nicky Hayden ever get back up to speed ?

And as for Marco........how sick must he be feeling, thinking he had signed the dream ticket with Ducati ?

andygo

7,391 posts

284 months

Friday 30th May 2008
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I have to agree. Poor Marco, I'm sure he just needs to flick a switch somewhere in his head and he'll be on it.

I have to say, for Lorenzo to do what he did last meeting was amazing. He showed a complete and utter lack of imagination as to the further consequences of a fall.

(My wife and I don't like him for some reason though!)

I just wish they would get rid of the traction control and let the boys REALLY show who's boss.

308mate

13,758 posts

251 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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I dont think the Duc has all that on the straights anymore. Particularly over the Hondas. I reckon the only reason Pedrosa hasnt been finishing as well as he would have liked is fuel consumption. His bike is turing the wick down to ensure he gets home.

If its wet, expect Toseland and Vermuelen to to be up there with Rossi I reckon.

I wish MotoGP would go full circle and lose TC like F1 has, but the stakes of a high side are higher and I think on safety grounds, it wont happen. Even though everyone in the field has lived with highsides in their past, there will soon be a crop of riders in GP that might never have had one, especially if the 250 class goes efi and 4 stroke.

Go Westy.

Furyous

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25,699 posts

250 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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Just watched 1st practice from last nights eurosport coverage.

How committed was Toseland in the wet ????

Steel balls I say.

Forecast is dry for today and raceday, so fingers crossed.

Tady Okada binning the dev. Honda, how embarrassed must he feel ?

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

235 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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if its dry, expect rossi and stoner to do one into the distance but if its wet, its anyones game....

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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After quali, Rossi's looking the clear favourite it seems, but Capirossi a second quicker than his team-mate to put it on the front row was also impressive.

Considering they've had pretty much zero dry setup time though, Toseland's 8th place is pretty damn impressive for a rookie on a track that he's only done a handful of laps on, so if he has / can find a good race setup in the warmup tomorrow, fingers crossed for another top 6 finish.

FourWheelDrift

92,264 posts

313 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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LocoBlade said:
After quali, Rossi's looking the clear favourite it seems, but Capirossi a second quicker than his team-mate to put it on the front row was also impressive.
He followed Rossi on his lap, probably got a nice tow to the line. It was missed on TV but Rossi signalled to Capirossi to follow him on the previous lap.

Furyous

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Saturday 31st May 2008
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Did you Stoners petulant throwing off the the gloves afterwards ?

He goes further and further down my esteem.

Love to see an italian 1/2, but Pedrobot might be there abouts if his bike doesnt go into fuel save mode.

See poor Bradley had a huge get off in quali too.

Dont forget World Supers at Salt Lake tomorrow too.


LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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Yup, Bradley's broken a bone in his foot evidently which is a shame, but should still ride. He's undoubtedly very talented but he needs to take a small step back IMHO as he's crashing too often to be a championship contender. I think if he knocks it back a tenth he'll still bag plenty of front row starts and podium finishes without ditching it in the gravel 2 to 3 times per weekend as he's doing at the moment.

Edited by LocoBlade on Saturday 31st May 22:50

FourWheelDrift

92,264 posts

313 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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Furyous said:
Dont forget World Supers at Salt Lake tomorrow too.
Live Superpole on Eurosport in 10mins, (11pm) Haga possibly not taking part after hurting his collarbone in practice earlier today.

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Saturday 31st May 2008
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Furyous said:
Did you Stoners petulant throwing off the the gloves afterwards ?
Nope, but my opinion of him has dropped recently too. He's undoubtedly very quick and I was impressed last year how he got rid of his crasher tendancies to string together a very good championship, but he does seem to be a bit of a sulky teenager when things aren't all falling into place for him.

RJO

861 posts

300 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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I bet that Stoner is not the only one that gets annoyed when things don't go his way, such in qualifying when other riders get in his way. Perhaps that's why they have superpole in WSB.
The reason that he fell so often in 2006 was the race tyres. Michelin have a pecking order, and had to make sure that Rossi got the best tyres, and that the lower teams didn't upset the favoured teams.
See the link, page 2 paragraph 5, if you don't want to read the whole thing.

http://www.sportrider.com/features/146_0711_2007_m...

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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Im sure its true that he didn't get as good tyres as Rossi etc, but he wasnt the only satellite team on Michelins. Although Im sure the top factory riders get access to development tyres before everyone else, I very much doubt Michelin make a whole range of gradually inferior tyres so that someone in pecking order 6 gets worse than the person in 5 and better than 7, so I can't see that he had worse tyres than people like Melandri and Elias who didn't crash anywhere near as often, so his "crasher" tag in '06 was at least partially justified IMHO. At the end of the day if the package can't go as fast as those in front of you, ride reliably at the maximum the bike can go at, there's little point in throwing it at the scenery just to double check!

Great 125 race BTW, top 5 covered by 0.2 seconds at the line! Bradley rode a really mature race, was 10th on the first lap and a couple of seconds off the back of the leading bunch but he gradually reeled them back in and picked them off. Going into the last lap he was actually leading, unfortunately it seems leading at that time is the worse place to be as everyone drafted past him into the first corner and he ended up 5th.


Furyous

Original Poster:

25,699 posts

250 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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Hats off to Bradley for leading for a few laps too.

Got to feel for Barbera though, thats gotta hurt !

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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Yeh that was a nasty crash in the 250 race, wouldnt be suprised if Simoncelli loses that win as it was a bit of a last minute and sudden weave.

Considering catching a front brake lever has caused several big shunts in recent years (thinking primarily of the Capirossi one a couple of years ago when he got sandwiched into the first corner), I wonder if there's something they could do about it, maybe a guard on the end of the bars to prevent that happening?

dxb335d

2,905 posts

224 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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Good racing so far, Bring on the 500's

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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dxb335d said:
Good racing so far, Bring on the 500's
Erm what 500's?wink

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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LocoBlade said:
Yeh that was a nasty crash in the 250 race, wouldnt be suprised if Simoncelli loses that win as it was a bit of a last minute and sudden weave.

Considering catching a front brake lever has caused several big shunts in recent years (thinking primarily of the Capirossi one a couple of years ago when he got sandwiched into the first corner), I wonder if there's something they could do about it, maybe a guard on the end of the bars to prevent that happening?
Agreed, I thought that was entirely avaoidable and caused purely by Simoncelli swerving into him.

Incredibly the commentators on BBCi went through, blow out, engine sieze, and did they touch?

Never even mentioned that Simoncelli may have been culpable