Kubica happier w/o driver aids
Kubica happier w/o driver aids
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vojx

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271 posts

271 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=42884 

so why didn't he just turn them off last year? perhaps they made him go faster?

Stuismyname

1,706 posts

266 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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vojx said:
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=42884 

so why didn't he just turn them off last year? perhaps they made him go faster?
I don't understand your comment at all confused why on earth would he have turned off the gizmos knowing everyone else was using them? How about just taking his comments at face value? An upturn in form is, after all, relative to what everyone else is doing. Perhaps he just feels he's coping better with the changes than others.

vojx

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271 posts

271 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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to quote:

"The biggest difference is that at the end of last year, as soon as we switched off all the systems which last year were helping drivers, I found the car much better, much easier to drive."

yet he left the TC on, thus the car's must be faster with TC. Is this borne out by lap times this year, or are there other changes that have blurred the effect.

guess i should stop being so lazy and look this up myself
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Stuismyname

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Friday 6th June 2008
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Yes, you shouldwink Although a comparison of last year's lap times to this year will also be affected by the 08 spec of the cars, and therefore meaningless for this purpose.

The comparison you'd need would be lap times of 07 cars to 07 cars without driver aids. I would bet that the "au naturale" spec is slower, if only marginally, which would explain why he didn't turn it off last year.

Then you'd get to a line of argument that says of course the times would be slower, because the cars were designed to have the driver aids, not to run without them. And so maybe even this comparison would be void for determining whether drivers are faster with or without the gizmos.

So, to answer your question - most likely it was Kubica saying some stuff to get the reporters to leave him be with whichever stunning continental model he happens to be porking this week (let's hope he doesn't have driver aids here either..)

Edited by Stuismyname on Friday 6th June 13:58

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Better and easier to drive doesn't necessarily mean faster.

Putting words in his mouth I bet means "more fun for the driver" wink

Holst

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250 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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vojx said:
to quote:

"The biggest difference is that at the end of last year, as soon as we switched off all the systems which last year were helping drivers, I found the car much better, much easier to drive."

yet he left the TC on, thus the car's must be faster with TC. Is this borne out by lap times this year, or are there other changes that have blurred the effect.

guess i should stop being so lazy and look this up myself
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I think it might be due to this years cars and engines being set up to be more drivable. Especially the torque curve of this years engines is more progressive to make it easyer to drive without traction control.

Just turning off the TC on last years car would have made it much more difficult to drive in comparison to this years non-TC designed car.

964RS.

238 posts

228 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Kubica is DEFINITELY going to hit "The Wall of Champions" this weekend. He was SO close during every lap in practice today. It's going to be big - Kubica doesn't do small accidents at the Canadian GP! He is a star on the rise though.

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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he hit it today in FP2 with his rear tyre - but i don't think he'll go any harder than a light brush, he seems to have this track sorted (unlike a few others...)

i reckon he'll finish on the podium smile (or stuff it - ok, there's always the outside chance!! biggrin )

dxb335d

2,905 posts

224 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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964RS. said:
Kubica is DEFINITELY going to hit "The Wall of Champions" this weekend. He was SO close during every lap in practice today. It's going to be big - Kubica doesn't do small accidents at the Canadian GP! He is a star on the rise though.
any accident ever seen at that ''wall'' does not compare in size to Kubica's accident last year.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

224 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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964RS. said:
Kubica is DEFINITELY going to hit "The Wall of Champions" this weekend. He was SO close during every lap in practice today. It's going to be big - Kubica doesn't do small accidents at the Canadian GP! He is a star on the rise though.
any accident ever seen at that ''wall'' does not compare in size to Kubica's accident last year.

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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vojx said:
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=42884 

so why didn't he just turn them off last year? perhaps they made him go faster?
His English isn't very good. You have to look at the context of the rest of what he said.

I'm pretty sure what he means is that THIS YEAR'S CAR is easier and better to drive than last year's car, not last year's car without TC. And when he said "at the end of last year", he was talking about the 2008 prototype car, not just the 2007 car sans TC without other modifications.

English is my second-language, so I tend to be acutely aware of how some idioms like "switch off" can be mis-used by those whose command of the language isn't quite up to scratch.

Edited by Jungles on Sunday 8th June 08:48