Valencia F1 GP Track
Valencia F1 GP Track
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Andy M

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3,755 posts

288 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Did anybody else think it was an utterly boring race track?

Isn't this one of Bernie's new 'jewels' - the benchmark by which all tracks should be measured?

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Dreadful and soulless.

And the only interesting thing about the track , the fish market pit buildings, are being torn down and replaced with a modern pit complex !

I watched the Formula BMW race that was also on that weekend - and that was quite a good race, but the track hardly has a single overtaking place, and the very nature of the track, spread the field out within 5 mins !

Monza and Spa are next - fingers crossed for some good racing


Dirty Boy

14,859 posts

238 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Exactly what I thought, it's amazing how much the surroundings of the track actually enhance what goes on, on the track.

Looked like they were racing around the outside of a prison yard much of the time IMO.

StevieBee

15,310 posts

284 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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I think that the virtues didn't televise that well as most of the media and those who attended seemed to think it rather grand.

On TV, it did look like a dull run through an industrial estate - which of course is exactly what it was.

Doesn't bode well for Singapore!

MM2200

264 posts

225 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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The concept of an F1 'racetrack' can only endure so many weighty restrictions before it collapses under the load.

The design begins with a creative expression of racing desire, which is then engineered into life.

Then there are the minor details, which refine the original concept before it is finally built. i.e. It must be designed to withstand a kaleidescopic array of critical stresses, mostly regulatory, which over time have coalesced into a kind of administrative bridle to be place upon the heads of the members of the politcal stablery who authorize the construction of the track.

In specific terms of redundant specifics, there many health and safety concerns, e.g. run off space, lest anyone crash, access for emergency services, lest anyone break a fingernail and normalization of excitement levels, lest any pacemakers be overexerted. Limitations are placed on overtaking space, to obviate sudden movements of spectators in their efforts to keep up with the action, for such anomalies invariably lead to the spilling of martinis, sodden feathers and other GP-ending catastrophes.

Is it any wonder that the taste and colour of the thing which emerges from this sawmill of compromise, is bland and mediocre?

ukvoyager.info

2,782 posts

251 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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I too was very underwhelmed. Monaco is streets ahead (no pun intended). Also there didnt seem to be anyone there! It looked like there was only 30,000 people. No atmosphire at all...

StevieBee

15,310 posts

284 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Has anyone seen the Bucharest track? I go there quite a lot and know the route quite well - looks very interesting but never seen the F3/GT race they hold there.

MM2200

264 posts

225 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Incidentally, I just watched "Lap of the Gods" narrated by murray walker. That was brilliant and you got to see in detail a few of the great tracks that have sinced disappeared from f1, highly recommend it.

Roo.

11,504 posts

236 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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woof said:
And the only interesting thing about the track , the fish market pit buildings, are being torn down and replaced with a modern pit complex !
Really? What an absolute waste.

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Hopefully the fact Singapore is a night race, interest might last beyond the first corner of the first lap.

I suppose it depends how brilliantly floodlit the circuit is. Will it have the atmosphere of a floodlit footy match?
Or will it just look like daytime on our screens?

nick francis

858 posts

290 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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I visited the circuit as it was being built last April and decided there and then that I wouldnt be going to the race. It was too dear and I figured that the potential for good viewing/photography were zero. I watched the race on Spanish TV instead and have to say it was the dullest race so far this year and also that the track was very unattractive. Sure Valencia has some beautiful parts but this circuit didnt weave around any of them, seemed to me that all we really saw was safety fencing.

We visited Valencia on Wednesday after the race
They were busy dismantling the circuit.
We took some shots with our "unbreakable" Olympus Mu 1030 SW, it broke the next day!!

Look at the catch fencing,


look at the seats in this stand, if you were unfortunate to have chosen the lower down seats then I reckon you would have seen n**f all.

These pics were taken just before the track went over the bridge. Having been round the whole circuit either on foot or by car I woulkd have to say its not worth the effort.



Having been to and driven Imola I really cant see why F1 is ditching such classic and beautiful circuits in favour of these new concrete jungles

Nick