Domenicali describes Hamilton's Raikkonen pass as 'racing'

[optimax sniffer]

As found in the Daily Mail here

[toomuchbeer]

Daily Mail said:

It may be a month before McLaren's appeal is heard by the FIA, motor sport's governing body, meaning that two of the final five rounds of the title chase in Italy and Singapore could take place before Hamilton and Massa know the real state of their battle.

It is even possible that the FIA will refuse to consider an appeal at all.


The 25 seconds added to Hamilton's final race time was a 'drive through penalty' against which there is no appeal.

I didn't realise it could take sooooooo long to appeal.

[Digga]

optimax sniffer said:

As found in the Daily Mail here

In the most literal sense of the word; fair play to the man.

If indeed that is his take on it, and he's prepared to be quoted on it, then it will go some way to putting the 'sport' back into F1. As I've said on other threads, from the outset Ferrari - obvioulsy very much in touch with public opinion through their PR machine - have seemed (quite understandably) keen to distance themselves from this dckshow of a result.

[ph123]

Autosport, Massa on Hamilton's move "I think he was maybe a bit too optimistic in thinking he could just hand back the position, albeit only partially to Kimi and then immediately try and pass him again.

"Incidents like this have often been discussed in the official driver briefings when it has been made absolutely clear that anyone cutting a chicane has to fully restore the position and also any other eventual advantage gained. "

What rubbish.
Hamilton had to slow to allow KR back past.
How is that not fully restoring KR's position?
6 kph slower over the finishing line wasn't it?
What other eventual advantage could he have gained?
Did he save fuel?
Take a shorter route?
Dirty tyres to give hime more grip?
And it was KR who pushed him off and kept him off the road, so what's the beef?
Bloody rubbish FIA.

[mrmr96]

Daily Mail said:

It may be a month before McLaren's appeal is heard by the FIA, motor sport's governing body, meaning that two of the final five rounds of the title chase in Italy and Singapore could take place before Hamilton and Massa know the real state of their battle.

It is even possible that the FIA will refuse to consider an appeal at all.

I think the key point here is that the FIA can (by delaying the appeal) see whether Ferrari are leading the championship by a good margin. If they are then they can approve the appeal. If they are not then they can refuse the appeal. (Am I too cynical?)

[ph123]

Bravo Lauda.

[SGirl]

Call me cynical if you like, but I think this comment now means that any McLaren appeal will be rejected. Because the appeal would be won with significant pro-Hamilton evidence like this.

[ph123]

I suspect they won't allow the appeal because it was a 'drive through' which you cannot appeal against.
But then they changed it to a time penalty ...

[Scuffers]

Guess Ferarri are getting some heat on this now...

[robbom3]

It does make you wonder if Ferrari and the FIA are sitting there thinking "uh oh, maybe we've gone too far this time". Perhaps they are getting a backlash of public opinion themselves, and therefore trying to distance themselves from the whole sorry episode.

For my part I've been an F1 fan for over 25 years, and this whole situation stinks of bias within the FIA. Hamilton has had FIVE penalties imposed on him this year (some quite justifiably), while Ferrari have gotten away with murder.

I do think that the weight of public opinion will have a bearing on the appeal, as both Ferrari and the FIA will want to try to repair their damaged reputations.

[philthy]

mrmr96 said:

Daily Mail said:

It may be a month before McLaren's appeal is heard by the FIA, motor sport's governing body, meaning that two of the final five rounds of the title chase in Italy and Singapore could take place before Hamilton and Massa know the real state of their battle.

It is even possible that the FIA will refuse to consider an appeal at all.

I think the key point here is that the FIA can (by delaying the appeal) see whether Ferrari are leading the championship by a good margin. If they are then they can approve the appeal. If they are not then they can refuse the appeal. (Am I too cynical?)

Exactly my thoughts as well.

[Racefan_uk]

robbom3 said:

It does make you wonder if Ferrari and the FIA are sitting there thinking "uh oh, maybe we've gone too far this time". Perhaps they are getting a backlash of public opinion themselves, and therefore trying to distance themselves from the whole sorry episode.

For my part I've been an F1 fan for over 25 years, and this whole situation stinks of bias within the FIA. Hamilton has had FIVE penalties imposed on him this year (some quite justifiably), while Ferrari have gotten away with murder.

I do think that the weight of public opinion will have a bearing on the appeal, as both Ferrari and the FIA will want to try to repair their damaged reputations.

You seem to be under the preconception that it was Ferrari who protested this incident, it wasn't, it's been done wholly by the FIA.
It's a good pointer that Domenicalli has stated in the media that even Ferrari think it was a racing incident. He also states that it wasn't the team who argued about it. The first they knew about it was when they were summoned to the stewards office too.

I'm of the opinion that Ferrari and McLaren are just running there own seasons and there are people within the FIA who are doing things by themselves to make life difficult for anyone in a Mercedes engined car.

Whether that's because the head of said organisation is rather bitter or not, is another matter entirely.

Edited by Racefan_uk on Tuesday 9th September 09:57